iPod's Banned (Senator Orrin Hatch wants them outlawed)
- KVRian
- 1313 posts since 29 Mar, 2002 from Salt Lake City, Utah - U.S.A.
http://10.148.8.60/utah/ci_2384178
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http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2384178
Does Hatch have iPod, TiVo, Google and Legos in his sights?
By Christopher Smith
The Salt Lake Tribune (UTAH)
Orrin Hatch
WASHINGTON - Already infamous in cyberspace for his comment last year that he wanted to remotely blow up computers of illegal song swappers, Sen. Orrin Hatch has triggered another din in the digital world.
This time, it is the possibility that the popular digital music player Apple iPod would be outlawed under legislation Hatch, R-Utah, is sponsoring.
Technology Web logs, online user group forums, even National Public Radio have reported that Hatch's so-called Induce Act would potentially make devices like the iPod illegal. An iPod can hold thousands of songs in digital formats such as mp3, and potentially could induce consumers to copy recordings without the permission of the copyright holder.
Other endangered gadgets under the bill, according to bloggers and technology activists, are the digital video recording system TiVo, mini-disc recorders, personal digital assistants (PDAs), the Google search engine and even the underlying architecture of the Internet itself.
One online technology magazine, Corante.com, has even started daily postings to Hatch's Hit List, a compilation of all consumer products that could be targeted if the Induce Act becomes law. So far it ranges from Legos (which can be custom ordered to replicate in building blocks any digital photo) to build-it-yourself AM-FM radio transmitters used for science fair projects.
At a hearing last week of the Senate Judiciary Committee he heads, Hatch tried to quash the iPod exterminator scenario as a mock complaint that any judge would toss out if his bill becomes law.
Neither Apple nor the iPod violate [the Induce Act], even if portable mp3 players became commercially viable only because file-sharing piracy created mp3 collections too large to be explained by legal purchase, Hatch said.
Record companies, which have lobbied hard for the bill, also are downplaying the potential threat to the ubiquitous iPod, which was originally advertised with the slogan Rip, Burn, Listen and last week was bestowed iconic status in a Newsweek cover story.
Technology is not the focus of this bill, said Mitch Bainwol, chairman of the Recording Industry Association of America. The Induce Act targets behavior, he said, namely specific actions taken by those who have hijacked technology to perpetrate and promote theft on a massive scale of this country's leading export.
But opponents say the bill would choke nascent technology and is so loosely worded that its reach goes far beyond controversial peer-to-peer file sharing software such as KaZaA and Grokster.
Co-founder of the House Internet Caucus, Rep. Rich Boucher, D-Va., said Hatch's bill could mean universities providing broadband connections in dorm rooms could be in violation, while Kevin McGuiness, director of NetCoalition, contends venture capitalists, credit card companies, common carriers and even entities providing editorial reviews of products could find themselves the target of litigation.
Hatch said that while he and co-sponsor Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., do not foresee such consequences, they are willing to enter into a constructive dialogue to ensure that the language is drawn as tightly as possible.
A different type of dialogue is already taking place on the World Wide Web, however.
One online technology forum asks participants: What will be banned first if Hatch's Induce Act passes?
Besides VCRs and paper, the numerous posts include common sense and Senator Hatch.
He's such a moron, this is just a drop in the bucket.
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http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2384178
Does Hatch have iPod, TiVo, Google and Legos in his sights?
By Christopher Smith
The Salt Lake Tribune (UTAH)
Orrin Hatch
WASHINGTON - Already infamous in cyberspace for his comment last year that he wanted to remotely blow up computers of illegal song swappers, Sen. Orrin Hatch has triggered another din in the digital world.
This time, it is the possibility that the popular digital music player Apple iPod would be outlawed under legislation Hatch, R-Utah, is sponsoring.
Technology Web logs, online user group forums, even National Public Radio have reported that Hatch's so-called Induce Act would potentially make devices like the iPod illegal. An iPod can hold thousands of songs in digital formats such as mp3, and potentially could induce consumers to copy recordings without the permission of the copyright holder.
Other endangered gadgets under the bill, according to bloggers and technology activists, are the digital video recording system TiVo, mini-disc recorders, personal digital assistants (PDAs), the Google search engine and even the underlying architecture of the Internet itself.
One online technology magazine, Corante.com, has even started daily postings to Hatch's Hit List, a compilation of all consumer products that could be targeted if the Induce Act becomes law. So far it ranges from Legos (which can be custom ordered to replicate in building blocks any digital photo) to build-it-yourself AM-FM radio transmitters used for science fair projects.
At a hearing last week of the Senate Judiciary Committee he heads, Hatch tried to quash the iPod exterminator scenario as a mock complaint that any judge would toss out if his bill becomes law.
Neither Apple nor the iPod violate [the Induce Act], even if portable mp3 players became commercially viable only because file-sharing piracy created mp3 collections too large to be explained by legal purchase, Hatch said.
Record companies, which have lobbied hard for the bill, also are downplaying the potential threat to the ubiquitous iPod, which was originally advertised with the slogan Rip, Burn, Listen and last week was bestowed iconic status in a Newsweek cover story.
Technology is not the focus of this bill, said Mitch Bainwol, chairman of the Recording Industry Association of America. The Induce Act targets behavior, he said, namely specific actions taken by those who have hijacked technology to perpetrate and promote theft on a massive scale of this country's leading export.
But opponents say the bill would choke nascent technology and is so loosely worded that its reach goes far beyond controversial peer-to-peer file sharing software such as KaZaA and Grokster.
Co-founder of the House Internet Caucus, Rep. Rich Boucher, D-Va., said Hatch's bill could mean universities providing broadband connections in dorm rooms could be in violation, while Kevin McGuiness, director of NetCoalition, contends venture capitalists, credit card companies, common carriers and even entities providing editorial reviews of products could find themselves the target of litigation.
Hatch said that while he and co-sponsor Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., do not foresee such consequences, they are willing to enter into a constructive dialogue to ensure that the language is drawn as tightly as possible.
A different type of dialogue is already taking place on the World Wide Web, however.
One online technology forum asks participants: What will be banned first if Hatch's Induce Act passes?
Besides VCRs and paper, the numerous posts include common sense and Senator Hatch.
He's such a moron, this is just a drop in the bucket.
Last edited by toine6 on Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 4 Jun, 2003 from Skanky Manc
My god - what a nobjockey
Where was this guy when cassette tapes were invented?
He'd have to prise my iPod from my cold, dead hands
Where was this guy when cassette tapes were invented?
He'd have to prise my iPod from my cold, dead hands
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
undersatement of the year......Rozzer wrote:My god - what a nobjockey![]()
what a twat
steve.
- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
blaster78 wrote:undersatement of the year......Rozzer wrote:My god - what a nobjockey![]()
what a twat![]()
steve.
I'm sure it's all in the name of decent christian values
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
that seems to be the justification for just about everything at the moment.spaceman wrote:blaster78 wrote:undersatement of the year......Rozzer wrote:My god - what a nobjockey![]()
what a twat![]()
steve.
I'm sure it's all in the name of decent christian values
steve.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1313 posts since 29 Mar, 2002 from Salt Lake City, Utah - U.S.A.
The coolest part about the article was learning that lego's allows you to make your own custom printed mosaic from any digital photo. Neat!
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3443&cn=60&d=14&t=5
And if Orrin has his way it could soon be illegal too.
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3443&cn=60&d=14&t=5
And if Orrin has his way it could soon be illegal too.
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
that is sotoine6 wrote:The coolest part about the article was learning that lego's allows you to make your own custom printed mosaic from any digital photo. Neat!
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3443&cn=60&d=14&t=5
And if Orrin has his way it could soon be illegal too.
steve.
- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
toine6 wrote:The coolest part about the article was learning that lego's allows you to make your own custom printed mosaic from any digital photo. Neat!
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3443&cn=60&d=14&t=5
And if Orrin has his way it could soon be illegal too.
BAN THAT DEMON LEGO!!!
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
send the troops to legolandspaceman wrote:toine6 wrote:The coolest part about the article was learning that lego's allows you to make your own custom printed mosaic from any digital photo. Neat!
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3443&cn=60&d=14&t=5
And if Orrin has his way it could soon be illegal too.
BAN THAT DEMON LEGO!!!
steve.
- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
why doesn't anyone ban 'c**ts for senator'?
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1313 posts since 29 Mar, 2002 from Salt Lake City, Utah - U.S.A.
Yeah, that's pretty much his excuse alright. He also thinks he's a music guy. He's the king of really cheesy, gooey, mushy, lyrics for god & country.blaster78 wrote:that seems to be the justification for just about everything at the moment.spaceman wrote:blaster78 wrote:undersatement of the year......Rozzer wrote:My god - what a nobjockey![]()
what a twat![]()
steve.
I'm sure it's all in the name of decent christian values
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steve.
http://www.hatchmusic.com/
- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
that usually means a lot of innocent people dying for nothingtoine6 wrote: for god & country..
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
nastytoine6 wrote: Yeah, that's pretty much his excuse alright. He also thinks he's a music guy. He's the king of really cheesy, gooey, mushy, lyrics for god & country.
each to their own i suppose but why try to impose stuff on others.
cheers,
steve.
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
blaster78 wrote:send the troops to legolandspaceman wrote:toine6 wrote:The coolest part about the article was learning that lego's allows you to make your own custom printed mosaic from any digital photo. Neat!
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3443&cn=60&d=14&t=5
And if Orrin has his way it could soon be illegal too.
BAN THAT DEMON LEGO!!!![]()
yeah god damn..
I say.. use shock and awe
bomb the damn plastic bastard children
My other host is Bruce Forsyth