What is your go to VST no matter what your working on?
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Hank the Knife Hank the Knife https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=362962
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- 301 posts since 16 Jul, 2015 from Where You Cannot Scream
Hmm.. EQ2. However, my mixes went from muddy to woolly lol that is a progression, not?
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
So best ones are ones that aren't needed?Lotuzia wrote: The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.
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ShawnG
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I really can't agree with this at all. I've found that some plugins are just so useful, they're like magic. For example, I use a Reaktor patch called The Wire on every single track of every single project. Sometimes, I will even load it more than once, either stacking it on the output, or loading it in between other effects. The wire is nothing but a pure DSP thru bus, but, the magic is in the length. It only works if you have a large monitor, smaller monitors just don't have enough travel length.Lotuzia wrote:The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.Joshgermon wrote:I have been reading up on a lot of effects recently after getting down the basics of my new DAW and would love to see what is your go to VST plugin! It's always interesting and informative to see what other people use!
As the bits travel through The Wire, they are stripped of digital dirt and grunge that they pick up while being processed with other plugs. Additionally, and this is why the length matters, they will realign their phase owing to the carefully spaced parallel wires and the speed of the bits traveling through the wire. This requires a minimum length of parallel virtual wires and so you need at least a 30" monitor in order to use The Wire.
The impact on the depth and clarity of the audio is amazing. The soundstage widens and opens up and become, dare I say it, three dimensional.
I can show you a picture of the internals setup for a particular non-standard bit rate, however, keep in mind that this isn't just something that you can build yourself, even with a picture, the length is critical for proper phase alignment and, naturally, it's different for different bit rates. Moreover, the relationship isn't linear, so you can't just double the length going from 48k to 96k, for example. The Wire isn't cheap, but, when you consider what it does for your music, I'm not sure that you could name a price that wouldn't seem like it's a steal.
I'm a distributor for The Wire, and I can probably get you a discount if you're a reasonably successful artist and you're interested in promoting The Wire on your website, pm if interested.
The Wire is purchased separately for each bit rate that you are interested in, some artists try using the wrong bit rate The Wire for special effects, but it's neither recommended nor supported. This is a precision tool for precision engineers.
https://i.postimg.cc/B6TN2Xj1/TheWire.png
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- KVRAF
- 13670 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Same here. ^^^ for 32-bit Vst's. Or Reaktor for noodling.annode wrote:I don`t have any one go to VST(i). I like to lend it to the wind when I start something.
I do always start with my stacker host called Chainer well before I open a seqr.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Exactly, sometimes I enjoy a bit of provocationZexila wrote:So best ones are ones that aren't needed?Lotuzia wrote: The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Why would I quote whole thing, I'm only asking about this statement.Lotuzia wrote:Exactly, sometimes I enjoy a bit of provocationZexila wrote:So best ones are ones that aren't needed?Lotuzia wrote: The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.This said my post had more thant that.
So in your opinion, best VST is one you don't have to use?
That's what you said, I'm only asking for confirmation
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ShawnG
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Thanks or the proposal, but I already enjoy *my things* without *your thing*. Not saying that 'your thing' cant be usefull for others people, or even for me sometimes, just that I don't need it, or feel I need this or anything else atm. I just dont need anymore added when I'm happy with the results I get from sources I enjoy.ghettosynth wrote:I really can't agree with this at all. I've found that some plugins are just so useful, they're like magic. For example, I use a Reaktor patch called The Wire on every single track of every single project. Sometimes, I will even load it more than once, either stacking it on the output, or loading it in between other effects. The wire is nothing but a pure DSP thru bus, but, the magic is in the length. It only works if you have a large monitor, smaller monitors just don't have enough travel length.Lotuzia wrote:The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.Joshgermon wrote:I have been reading up on a lot of effects recently after getting down the basics of my new DAW and would love to see what is your go to VST plugin! It's always interesting and informative to see what other people use!
As the bits travel through The Wire, they are stripped of digital dirt and grunge that they pick up while being processed with other plugs. Additionally, and this is why the length matters, they will realign their phase owing to the carefully spaced parallel wires and the speed of the bits traveling through the wire. This requires a minimum length of parallel virtual wires and so you need at least a 30" monitor in order to use The Wire.
The impact on the depth and clarity of the audio is amazing. The soundstage widens and opens up and become, dare I say it, three dimensional.
I can show you a picture of the internals setup for a particular non-standard bit rate, however, keep in mind that this isn't just something that you can build yourself, even with a picture, the length is critical for proper phase alignment and, naturally, it's different for different bit rates. Moreover, the relationship isn't linear, so you can't just double the length going from 48k to 96k, for example. The Wire isn't cheap, but, when you consider what it does for your music, I'm not sure that you could name a price that wouldn't seem like it's a steal.
I'm a distributor for The Wire, and I can probably get you a discount if you're a reasonably successful artist and you're interested in promoting The Wire on your website, pm if interested.
The Wire is purchased separately for each bit rate that you are interested in, some artists try using the wrong bit rate The Wire for special effects, but it's neither recommended nor supported. This is a precision tool for precision engineers.
http://postimg.org/image/hs1ye6ogv/
Creative effects can certainly be part of my process, but then, they are like any other synthesis tools : Just personal choices.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Read it simply like that : There's not a single VST I would put on *every project* or *every track of a project*. And this is my answer to the OP post. So the best vst is *that one* I'll never use *always*, and you can confirm.Zexila wrote:Why would I quote whole thing, I'm only asking about this statement.Lotuzia wrote:Exactly, sometimes I enjoy a bit of provocationZexila wrote:So best ones are ones that aren't needed?Lotuzia wrote: The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.This said my post had more thant that.
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So in your opinion, best VST is one you don't have to use?
That's what you said, I'm only asking for confirmation
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77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
What you taught and what you actually wrote are two totally different things, just thatLotuzia wrote:Read it simply like that : There's not a single VST I would put on *every project* or *every track of a project*. And this is my answer to the OP post. So you can confirm.Zexila wrote:Why would I quote whole thing, I'm only asking about this statement.Lotuzia wrote:Exactly, sometimes I enjoy a bit of provocationZexila wrote:So best ones are ones that aren't needed?Lotuzia wrote: The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.This said my post had more thant that.
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So in your opinion, best VST is one you don't have to use?
That's what you said, I'm only asking for confirmation
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here?
ShawnG
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
EQ2...and a few other assorted things
Barry
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- KVRAF
- 5377 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
ghettosynth wrote:The Wire is nothing but a pure DSP thru bus, but the magic is in the length....As the bits travel through The Wire, they are stripped of digital dirt and grunge that they pick up while being processed with other plugs. Additionally, and this is why the length matters, they will realign their phase owing to the carefully spaced parallel wires and the speed of the bits traveling through the wire.
Lotuzia wrote:Not saying that 'your thing' cant be useful for other people, or even for me sometimes, just that I don't need it, or feel I need this or anything else atm. I just don't need anymore added when I'm happy with the results I get from sources I enjoy.
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Oh, I understand. Not everyone is ready for TheWire. I do want to clarify though, this isn't a "creative effect", it's a precision tool. Some might say that it's a game changer. It's one of those things, once you hear it, you can never unhear it.Lotuzia wrote:Thanks or the proposal, but I already enjoy *my things* without *your thing*. Not saying that 'your thing' cant be usefull for others people, or even for me sometimes, just that I don't need it, or feel I need this or anything else atm. I just dont need anymore added when I'm happy with the results I get from sources I enjoy.ghettosynth wrote: I'm a distributor for The Wire, and I can probably get you a discount if you're a reasonably successful artist and you're interested in promoting The Wire on your website, pm if interested.
The Wire is purchased separately for each bit rate that you are interested in, some artists try using the wrong bit rate The Wire for special effects, but it's neither recommended nor supported. This is a precision tool for precision engineers.
http://postimg.org/image/hs1ye6ogv/
Creative effects can certainly be part of my process, but then, they are like any other synthesis tools : Just personal choices.
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Thanks or the proposal, but I already enjoy *my things* without *your thing*. Not saying that 'your thing' cant be usefull for others people, or even for me sometimes, just that I don't need it, or feel I need this or anything else atm. I just dont need anymore added when I'm happy with the results I get from sources I enjoy.Lotuzia wrote:ghettosynth wrote:I really can't agree with this at all. I've found that some plugins are just so useful, they're like magic. For example, I use a Reaktor patch called The Wire on every single track of every single project. Sometimes, I will even load it more than once, either stacking it on the output, or loading it in between other effects. The wire is nothing but a pure DSP thru bus, but, the magic is in the length. It only works if you have a large monitor, smaller monitors just don't have enough travel length.Lotuzia wrote:The best VST on every project is the one that I dont have to use because everything is OK with the sound sources themselves.Joshgermon wrote:I have been reading up on a lot of effects recently after getting down the basics of my new DAW and would love to see what is your go to VST plugin! It's always interesting and informative to see what other people use!
As the bits travel through The Wire, they are stripped of digital dirt and grunge that they pick up while being processed with other plugs. Additionally, and this is why the length matters, they will realign their phase owing to the carefully spaced parallel wires and the speed of the bits traveling through the wire. This requires a minimum length of parallel virtual wires and so you need at least a 30" monitor in order to use The Wire.
The impact on the depth and clarity of the audio is amazing. The soundstage widens and opens up and become, dare I say it, three dimensional.
I can show you a picture of the internals setup for a particular non-standard bit rate, however, keep in mind that this isn't just something that you can build yourself, even with a picture, the length is critical for proper phase alignment and, naturally, it's different for different bit rates. Moreover, the relationship isn't linear, so you can't just double the length going from 48k to 96k, for example. The Wire isn't cheap, but, when you consider what it does for your music, I'm not sure that you could name a price that wouldn't seem like it's a steal.
I'm a distributor for The Wire, and I can probably get you a discount if you're a reasonably successful artist and you're interested in promoting The Wire on your website, pm if interested.
The Wire is purchased separately for each bit rate that you are interested in, some artists try using the wrong bit rate The Wire for special effects, but it's neither recommended nor supported. This is a precision tool for precision engineers.
http://postimg.org/image/hs1ye6ogv/
Creative effects can certainly be part of my process, but then, they are like any other synthesis tools : Just personal choices.[/quote]
He's taking the piss, just read some reviews of 'audiophile' cables or speaker wire and you'll realise where he's coming from
Just remember to sacrifice a chicken each time before using, unless you're Haitian, in which case your genetics already exude the required amount of Voodoo
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
A limiter on the master channel
- KVRist
- 195 posts since 12 Sep, 2015 from The Fortesque Mansion
Pfft. So Pagan.VariKusBrainZ wrote:Just remember to sacrifice a chicken each time before using, unless you're Haitian, in which case your genetics already exude the required amount of Voodoo

Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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