UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[arachnaut]

Well, all of this just makes it more obvious how important it is to have a dedicated UVI/Falcon forum.
This thread became some kind of LinearAllInOneLongRowForumBugReportSoundAndScriptReleaseThingy which is silly.

Having FAQs all over KVR somewhere will not help people who are not as proficient with using forums as some long-time-users.
And it's not always easy to find something when you just start out - you may not even know what to search for.

Moaning about how users use it wrongly or how useless it is to ask for a forum will not solve anything either, but just create more noise, create a negative vibe and make people hesitant to post instead of talking freely.

And as much as I like the sounds and examples from Patch Adams and Patchpool (I really do, I bought libraries from both) I also find it weird if this one main thread turns into a kind of advertisement thread - you can't really unsubscribe if you want to stay on top of it and getting reminders all the time for another example for a new library is becoming noise at one point too.

This is absolutely NOT against anybody, but IMO it's time to revise the decision about a dedicated forum on UVIs side.
It is simply wrong to not have one, be it here or on their own site.

BTW. I found the discussion about samples and batch editing quite interesting - good stuff about the XML editing - and thanks arachnaut for the soundpack!

Cheers and sorry of I tread on anybodies toes - it's crowded in here

Tom

I agree with you.

I did not know Falcon was related to Mach 5 when I bought it a few weeks ago and I had no previous UVI products.

So sometimes following these posts is difficult.

Falcon is really cool, but it crashes a lot for me. I've submitted one bug report, but I'm not going to do it for everything that I find wrong. I figure it will get shaken out soon. Most of the crashes won't allow me to resume Falcon, I need to re-boot for some reason (I'm on Windows 10 Pro TH2).

It probably crashes for me because I don't know how to use it 'properly'.

For me, I find it's "bottom up" approach unusual and strange.

I usually experiment and tweak things a lot and this machine is rather hard to use that way - at least on samples. I haven't tried the other oscillators yet.

My advice is that people save their work often.

[ThomasHelzle]

...and thanks arachnaut for the soundpack!
...

You are quite welcome.

I got a private message about someone who could not complete the download.

It downloads fine for me in a few minutes.

There may be some sort of quota on my download server, but I don't think so. I've had lots of gigabyte downloads served with no issues before.

I just tried using 7zip and get an error on extraction: Karplangor-C1-mf.wav data error.
The file is only 14 MB in size instead of 68.
Maybe something went wrong on upload?

Cheers,

Tom

[newuser2014]

I can get the file and it extracts but I had to use my phone.
It is a beautiful construct that is fascinating to study. It is helping me understand Falcon.
At one point I was soloing layers and said to myself, " This is ONE oscillator !"
Thanks.

[arachnaut]

That was his error, too...

It should be 65 MB (68,292,608 bytes)

Weird, I used WinRAR, but it could be a new Windows Beta version.

I am making a new version using WinZip, an old version, so it may be more compatible.

Try downloading again in a few minutes.

I always test myself by downloading and extracting, so it 'should' work.

It is now uploaded again and my download tests OK.

For me it extracts fine with 7-zip, WinZip, and WinRar.

[ThomasHelzle]

Works now, thanks!
Interesting sound

Cheers,

Tom

[arachnaut]

Works now, thanks!
Interesting sound

Cheers,

Tom

That's what I write when I don't like something!

But, seriously, it is a bit over-the-top, like most of my stuff. I call it a heavy metal harpsichord.

If you've ever heard a piece called 'Silicon Valley Breakdown' by David Jaffe, you'll see the resemblance.

[arachnaut]

When I used the phrase, "bottom's up approach", I mean that I think of loading samples into an instrument (top-down), not attaching instruments to samples (bottoms-up). That's the part that I just don't get my head around.

For example, if I made a preset using a 4x oversampling on hundreds of samples, and you have a wimpy laptop and can't play a single note of it, you'd have to edit every sample instead of just one instrument parameter.

This doesn't seem like a good approach to me.

Instead, I'd edit the preset and do a search and replace of

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SpectrumOversampling="2"

.

In other words, preset editing may be a better way to modify some things in Falcon. I won't miss a sample by doing that sort of edit, and it saves many, many mouse clicks.

[ontol]

[arachnaut]

silicon valley breakdown!

haven't thought of that song in many years.

first heard it on one of the first CD's I ever listened to: The Digital Domain

Me, too! I think it was the first CD I ever bought.

[arachnaut]

For those who have UltraEdit and want to use it to edit presets, here is what to do.
Go to UltraEdit Advanced->Configuration
Select Editor Display->Syntax Highlighting
Open the XML wordfile
Edit the first line of the wordfile to look like this:

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/L6"XML" XML_LANG Noquote Block Comment On = <!-- Block Comment Off = --> File Extensions = XML XUL XSD XSL XSLT WSDL CONFIG SSS UVIP

In other words, add the UVIP file extension to the XML file list.

Save the wordfile.

This will allow syntax highlighting and collapsing/expanding of XML objects.
That makes it very easy to follow layers and other inner parts.

So a mostly-collapsed preset will look like this:

XML.png

Then you click on the [+] to expand the section or [-] to collapse the group.

[arachnaut]

If you want to add your own graphic to the Macro Edit display and Info data do this.

Add something like this to the preset:

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<UVI4>
    <Program Name="Program" Bypass="0" Gain="1" Pan="0" DisplayName="Karplangor III" TransposeOctaves="0" TransposeSemiTones="0" OutputName="" Polyphony="16" NotePolyphony="0" ProgramPath="$User programs/Karplangor III.uvip" LoopProgram="0" Streaming="1" BypassInsertFX="0">
        <Properties BackgroundImagePath="Karplangor-bg.png" description="Karplus-Strong samples from CSound"/>

The Properties tag takes an image and a description attribute value.
The image should be in the folder with the preset.

That would look something like this:

Clipboard-1.png

Clipboard-2.png

Obviously I didn't get the aspect ratio right.

[Sampleconstruct]

Well, all of this just makes it more obvious how important it is to have a dedicated UVI/Falcon forum.
This thread became some kind of LinearAllInOneLongRowForumBugReportSoundAndScriptReleaseThingy which is silly.

Having FAQs all over KVR somewhere will not help people who are not as proficient with using forums as some long-time-users.
And it's not always easy to find something when you just start out - you may not even know what to search for.

Moaning about how users use it wrongly or how useless it is to ask for a forum will not solve anything either, but just create more noise, create a negative vibe and make people hesitant to post instead of talking freely.

And as much as I like the sounds and examples from Patch Adams and Patchpool (I really do, I bought libraries from both) I also find it weird if this one main thread turns into a kind of advertisement thread - you can't really unsubscribe if you want to stay on top of it and getting reminders all the time for another example for a new library is becoming noise at one point too.

This is absolutely NOT against anybody, but IMO it's time to revise the decision about a dedicated forum on UVIs side.
It is simply wrong to not have one, be it here or on their own site.

BTW. I found the discussion about samples and batch editing quite interesting - good stuff about the XML editing - and thanks arachnaut for the soundpack!

Cheers and sorry of I tread on anybodies toes - it's crowded in here

Tom

Before we start getting into deeper arguments of what is to be considered as “noise“ in this thread and what as vital information - your ongoing requests for an UVI forum or my audio examples of sounds made with Falcon - let's just call it a day. My new FAQ-thread is the total opposite of “scattered“ - one post in on sticky-thread containing all the essential info I can compile. As my nagging school-masterly-PITA-behaviour in this thread has obviously teased you, and you can't let go of your we-need-an-UVI-forum-here-vision, you would of course call such an FAQ-thread “scattered“ although it's obviously not.

So people, bring up the noise, I will let this thread loose now and concentrate on those FAQs.

[ThomasHelzle]

Works now, thanks!
Interesting sound

That's what I write when I don't like something!

Hahahaha.
It's not a sound I would come up with myself, but that's what I like with hearing other peoples creations

And thanks again for the in-depth explanation on the XML. That may come in handy.

@Simon:
True, the school-masterly thing isn't exactly something I personally find helpful on KVR.
And I say that as somebody who knows exactly how hard it can be at times to avoid

And no, I don't find the idea of an FAQ useless, far from it.

But that does not change the fact that a central place for discussions and knowledge about Falcon is missing.
So I see no reason to "let go" of something that makes sense?
Should I stop voting for the political party I find important because they may never win the election?

I hope to learn a lot more about Falcon here, one way or another

Cheers,

Tom

[Sampleconstruct]

But that does not change the fact that a central place for discussions and knowledge about Falcon is missing.
So I see no reason to "let go" of something that makes sense?
Should I stop voting for the political party I find important because they may never win the election?

I should respond to that with a fresh audio demo from Falcon Air but I don't have a new one here right now so I'll skip that

[Sampleconstruct]

Here is some more of my noise - multi-sampled Wahwah Tube Synth - 3 key-switchable layers with different vibrato types of a lovely Wahwah Tube (mallet instrument):