Hi from Spectrasonics!

[Echoes in the Attic]

Although I disagree about the EDM patches all being "truly horrible" (ridiculous sweeping statement, imo)

I know, right? It is ridiculous how sweepingly terrible the entire EDM library is. Ok, I guess I should add a big "IMO" to that statement. But it's funny though, I did notice when going through the presets, that usually the ones I strongly disliked were shown as coming from the EDM library. So I finally though, maybe I'll go through the sounds of just the EDM library and see what I actually do like in case I don' want any of it. After doing so I think I found maybe one patch that I didn't mind. So then I got thinking, ok now how to I uninstall this library... and then I forgot and the request got me thinking about it again.

Turns out it's pretty easy! Just go into the Patches folder and the into the factory sub folder and move the Spotlight - EDM.db file out of there. Looks to me like I don' see that library or it's patches anymore.

[AstralExistence]

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[Gonga]

Does it really cost Spec $30 to provide me with downloads for my 3 programs? I guess I'll continue installing from the CDs. I find the software really good, but the company policies arrogant. I've spent $1,300 on their software. That insistence on getting another $30 from me for downloads feels disrespectful, greedy and...alienating.

Content delivery network companies that provide the bandwidth to deliver the software libraries can charge up to $0.30 per gigabyte. For large libraries like Spectrasonics provides, yes, it could cost them $30 dollars.

I find that really, really hard to believe. So for 10,000 users Spec would pay their online host $30 x 10,000 = $300,000 per year? The math doesn't add up, which is why I posted in the first place.

[Ciberithm]

Does it really cost Spec $30 to provide me with downloads for my 3 programs? I guess I'll continue installing from the CDs. I find the software really good, but the company policies arrogant. I've spent $1,300 on their software. That insistence on getting another $30 from me for downloads feels disrespectful, greedy and...alienating.

Content delivery network companies that provide the bandwidth to deliver the software libraries can charge up to $0.30 per gigabyte. For large libraries like Spectrasonics provides, yes, it could cost them $30 dollars.

I find that really, really hard to believe. So for 10,000 users Spec would pay their online host $30 x 10,000 = $300,000 per year? The math doesn't add up, which is why I posted in the first place.

Yes, the math does add up. You added it for us. If you don't believe the cost per megabyte, go and try to buy that much bandwith. Verizon charges $10 per GB for their data plans. Hmmm, 30 cents doesn't seem so high now, does it? Of course, buying bandwidth in bulk can reduce the price, so maybe they pay only $150,000 per year. But think of it this way, if they sell 10,000 licenses per year at an average price of $300, they make 3,000,000 per year. It's funny how math works.

[Sampleconstruct]

As a reference: data transfer/downloads on my S3 amazon servers costs me $0.090 per GB (less than 1 cent), storage on the server costs $0.030 per GB - so those figures above are very unrealistic/much too high. For a total download of 220 GB in December I paid 26 USD including storage and taxes for that month.

[Ciberithm]

Sure, you can get bandwidth cheaper than $0.30 cents if all you need is bulk transfer. I've paid as much as 30 cents / GB for media streaming in the past year. But whether it's 10 cents or 30 cents, bandwidth is still an expense that vendors have to pay for, and they certainly have / need to mark up prices to make a profit - they are a business, not a non-profit. I agree $30 may be a bit high, but my point was that bandwidth does cost money, and for large libraries, the cost is not trivial. I think most vendors roll that into the price of theor product. I know I do. When the cost to consumer is transparent, it can be a little less painful.

[Sampleconstruct]

Sure, you can get bandwidth cheaper than $0.30 cents if all you need is bulk transfer. I've paid as much as 30 cents / GB for media streaming in the past year. But whether it's 10 cents or 30 cents, bandwidth is still an expense that vendors have to pay for, and they certainly have / need to mark up prices to make a profit - they are a business, not a non-profit. I agree $30 may be a bit high, but my point was that bandwidth does cost money, and for large libraries, the cost is not trivial. I think most vendors roll that into the price of theor product. I know I do. When the cost to consumer is transparent, it can be a little less painful.

It's not bulk transfer, it's the costs for single downloads of patchpool users for various libraries, so even your 10 cents are about 10x too high.

[Ciberithm]

As a reference: data transfer/downloads on my S3 amazon servers costs me $0.090 per GB (less than 1 cent), storage on the server costs $0.030 per GB - so those figures above are very unrealistic/much too high. For a total download of 220 GB in December I paid 26 USD including storage and taxes for that month.

Forgive me for rounding up to 10 cents.

So how is 10 cents 10x higher than 9 cents (your stated price)? I don't get it.

[rustman]

As a reference: data transfer/downloads on my S3 amazon servers costs me $0.090 per GB (less than 1 cent), storage on the server costs $0.030 per GB - so those figures above are very unrealistic/much too high. For a total download of 220 GB in December I paid 26 USD including storage and taxes for that month.

Forgive me for rounding up to 10 cents.

So how is 10 cents 10x higher than 9 cents (your stated price)? I don't get it.

Edited: my brain actually is defective.

Edit edit: i took it to mean $.009 and $.003 respectively. Pretty sure tht's what he meant, especially when he stated "less than 1 cent". He pays the bill, so he probably knows the rate.

[Sampleconstruct]

Yes, less than 1 cent, just read what I wrote maybe.

(EDIT: wanted to write, the figures I typed are wrong).

[Sampleconstruct]

As a reference: data transfer/downloads on my S3 amazon servers costs me $0.090 per GB (less than 1 cent), storage on the server costs $0.030 per GB - so those figures above are very unrealistic/much too high. For a total download of 220 GB in December I paid 26 USD including storage and taxes for that month.

Forgive me for rounding up to 10 cents.

So how is 10 cents 10x higher than 9 cents (your stated price)? I don't get it.

Well, I typed the wrong figures it seems, 0.009 $ per GB would have been correct, sorry about the confusion.

Meaning that if someone requests an additional downoad of lets say 10 GB it costs me exactly 9 cent, plus some micro-cents for the storage and VAT, plus some micro-micro-cents for the electricity, plus some for the time it takes me to manually generate downkoad links.

[Sampleconstruct]

As a reference: data transfer/downloads on my S3 amazon servers costs me $0.090 per GB (less than 1 cent), storage on the server costs $0.030 per GB - so those figures above are very unrealistic/much too high. For a total download of 220 GB in December I paid 26 USD including storage and taxes for that month.

Forgive me for rounding up to 10 cents.

So how is 10 cents 10x higher than 9 cents (your stated price)? I don't get it.

Well, I typed the wrong figures it seems, 0.009 $ per GB would have been correct, sorry about the confusion.

Meaning that if someone requests an additional downoad of lets say 10 GB it costs me exactly 9 cent, plus some micro-cents for the storage and VAT, plus some micro-micro-cents for the electricity, plus some for the time it takes me to manually generate downkoad links.

LOL, and of course I am writing crap again here, it is indeed 0.09 $ per GB... - so a 10 GB download from someone costs me 90 dollar cent.

[rustman]

Dammit Simon. I'm a doctor, not a mathmatician.

[Sampleconstruct]

Dammit Simon. I'm a doctor, not a mathmatician.

Oh, a doctor might be helpful in my case, what a mess I made here

[Fleer]

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