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magicmusic · Post by **magicmusic** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:17 pm

i test the 2.9 Demo, . I notice in RC 2.9 MUX modular(newest i test) do not work. it can add in vsti tab, but when the 64 bit MUX version is load in a instrument track in 64 bit Rapid composer, there come only a "error when loading plugin..." I am sure is use both 64 bit. sample tank 3 work ok in 2.9

maybe in V3 RC it work ok ?. with MUX it is possible to wire VST together, and use effects(midi effects too) in RC. it have also a browser for sound select etc. here can test

http://www.mutools.com/mux-downloads.html

tatanka · Post by **tatanka** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:18 pm

+ 1 from me too,

thats why I am waiting for the version with new idea tool to start again trying to get into it, thats the problem with all the great new improving features: learning curve is kind of "steady steep" all the time you try to get into it again.

magicmusic · Post by **magicmusic** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:39 pm

Hi Attila
Your design and with the phrase and phrase variation is really great. i think the best of all. I have some suggestions, to add to it more features. look not as much work, maybe other find it usefull too.

In phrase "manual editing" load/save option for rythm pattern settings.
this let try out phrases fast with diffrent rythm settings

Phrase Variation arp mode. with a chord from a phrase or manual editing, the arp variation create notes depend on a textstring.
123 in string play note at time 0 with lowest notenumber. note at next time play lowest +1 3. note lowest +2. this is the simple up arp mode
12321 is the simple up down arp mode. But there can do much more arp patterns by add more numbers sequence.

I see RC is able to use controller and pitch bend, but not in a phrase. Add whole controller support in a phrase is lots work i think.
But phrase variation, look not as so much work, and make it more powerfull, because there can test with and without diffrent bending easy

My suggestion is use common vibrato and bend play styles that are define in note sheet writing and simulate with Pitch Bend.
it can then choose in Inspector as normal vibrato, wide vibrato, bend half, bend full and some more.
See this videos and some play from BB King.

There is midiguitar (working demo too)which is an audio to midi and pitch bend converter,
that allow from a sound file or guitar create notes and pitch bend controls. so can get good bends and vibrato for guitar.

In a variation can then choose min note length, so that only notes larger as 1/8 do bend or vibrato. or choose a beat, that enable the effect.
maybe 4 beat positions are possible each variation. if really need more, can need another varation.

So can make more feeling in music with variation, and can easy switch on or off. I think bending and vibrato is very important, for
Synth lead sounds, guitar , and choir or vocals.

It is also possible to add a phrase variation for filter sweeps or controller support. maybe 8 slider per bar define values and controller is interpolate with 1/32 or so

Nextom · Post by **Nextom** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:27 pm

Hi Attila,

I found another bug in the Mac-version: When I'm in the Chord Suggestions window and type-in a chord, RC crashes as soon as I hit return.

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:26 pm

Hi Thomas,
you are right, I was able to reproduce it, and will fix in today. Beta8 is almost finished.
Thank you!
Attila

EDIT: the issue is fixed now.

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:44 pm

Hi magicmusic,

thanks for the excellent ideas.

magicmusic wrote:In phrase "manual editing" load/save option for rythm pattern settings.this let try out phrases fast with diffrent rythm settings

This will soon be implemented. There will be a rhythm browser, just like the phrase browser where you can store rhythm patterns.
I am adding improvements for rhythm usage. You will see the first set of changes in beta8, really soon. Phrases can now use shared rhythm patterns (the same rhythm used by many phrases, even from different tracks). Unlike in v2.x, note length belongs to the rhythm, and there are rhythm "postprocessing" options between the rhythm generator and phrase generator, which includes adding rests.

magicmusic wrote:Phrase Variation arp mode. with a chord from a phrase or manual editing, the arp variation create notes depend on a textstring.

Good idea, I added this to the to-do list.
You are right, it would be interesting to have variations that do bending and vibrato. At the moment variations cannot output MIDI controller messages, but this will be implemented later.

Thanks!
Attila

nexussynth · Post by **nexussynth** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:54 am

what is the best way to add more measures to the end? i want to add say 10 measures but every way i try causes an immediate crash in the betaV3.

still this is a fantastic music software!

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:33 am

Oh no, this silly bug is fixed now.

Until the next beta version is uploaded, you can drag the small handle at the right edge of the timeline to add a few beats. If you can't see the handle, click-and-hold on the timeline to zoom out the workspace horizontally.

Thanks,
Attila

magicmusic · Post by **magicmusic** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:03 pm

forrestlong wrote:Hi Attila,

Thank you for this beta, very nice!

I really like the feature of being able to add the Midi Track Controllers to the panel with the Track Instrument Labels. One thing that I noticed is if I adjust these sliders the track freezes visually ... does not seem to effect the audio, though.

Not sure if it is a Windows 10 thing. I'm using v3.0b2 (x64)

Thanks
Forrest

I use the b7 on win 10 64. But i do not know, how i can get the volume and pan slider. I think it is important to have the slider for a track. I see no mixer page in B7

How can i mix now, or how can i show level and pan in the track view as you do ?

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:08 pm

in the Track inspector / variation tab

magicmusic · Post by **magicmusic** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:01 am

thanks, now i find. In Track Midi Controller(the slider icon) is pan and another volume. There need many click steps do, to add volume and pan to track.

I see no function to load and save a single track. this allow load a predefine empty track with this settings. I see also no function in track Inspecter to copy, paste a whole track.

Copy paste track is usefull to copy a track to another track and set to mute, try out in the original track some other settings and compare both tracks, and later choose the better. if copy and paste track is not in rapid composer in, then load and save track is a ok replace.

but maybe i did not see how load and save, copy and paste tracks work. is this possible in any way ?

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:43 pm

Copying and pasting tracks works in v3.0. You need to click on the track area to make it the 'keyboard focus' area. Then the usual Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-X, Delete operations work. You can add a new track by pressing + (plus), or duplicate the selected track with phrases by pressing * (asterisk)

This is new in v3. You can check all actions associated with the track list under the Settings / Keyboard Shortcuts tab.

Regards,
Attila

wibem · Post by **wibem** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:21 pm

Hi Attila, can you add a support for the mouse-wheel to move the faders? That whould be great.

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:28 pm

Yes, I will add support for mouse wheel, thank you.
Attila

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:51 pm

^^
if we are talking about track panel,
and if its possible i prefer to have this optional ... to keep up-down scroll in safe.
(one of my first thing to figured it out in the Reaper was "how to disable mouse wheel for track controls")

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