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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:08 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:At least it still evokes emotions, some love it, some hate it

Just like with any synth.

fluffy_little_something · Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:12 pm

chk071 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:At least it still evokes emotions, some love it, some hate it
Just like with any synth.

Not sure, I don't remember such emotions with Dune for instance. Some may not like Dune, but they do so without passion so to speak.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:41 pm

2ZrgE wrote:
EnGee wrote:
wagtunes wrote:So why not get Sylenth1? Because at $158 (normal price) I can get other synths that are cheaper and do more. That's why. And now that I have them, no need to get Sylenth1 on sale.
You keep repeating this in every thread related to Sylenth1!
The thing you don't get it is most people who buy synths they use it in their music not in order to sell presets!

@OP
I'm not into edm or dubstep but if I have $99, I would buy it.

It makes great basses, leads and pads with very low CPU usage. It has easy to understand interface and it is begging to be programmed and tweaked. And if you are not into making your own sounds, there are thousands out there (free and commercial).

It is a king that many synths trying to get its crown (in edm) so it seems strange that you have every synth and don't have Sylenth1 for edm!
So why not get a Porsche? Because at $100,000 (normal price) I can get other cars that are cheaper and do more.

I'm tired of people bashing Porsche just because they have Ferrari or Fiat. I can understand the first, but the second?!

Honestly, which synth is much cheaper than Sylenth1 and as the same level? I see people always compare, Hive, Dune and Spire to it but those have almost the same prices as Sylenth1 !!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:15 pm

chk071 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:At least it still evokes emotions, some love it, some hate it
Just like with any synth.

I don't love or hate Sylenth... I came close to buying it a few times... had the demo installed for years. There are a few sounds it makes that are just gorgeous, but then others I didn't particularly like and it is so feature limited that I knew it would be a playground too small to satisfy me.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:11 pm

The new Dune 2.5 sounds great and some key sound issues have been improved but it is still a notch below Sylenth1 in the sound category. People that don't own Sylenth1 and use it with regularity can't really get a good sense of the monster it is. When I parse through my 6000 Sylenth1 presets something wonderful is always found. Also Sylenth1's random sound generator brings even more interesting sounds to life.

fluffy_little_something · Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:16 pm

pdxindy wrote:
chk071 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:At least it still evokes emotions, some love it, some hate it
Just like with any synth.
I don't love or hate Sylenth... I came close to buying it a few times... had the demo installed for years. There are a few sounds it makes that are just gorgeous, but then others I didn't particularly like and it is so feature limited that I knew it would be a playground too small to satisfy me.

Frankly, whether or not Sylenth sounds good depends a lot on the programmer's skills.
What it does, it does well, and for the things it doesn't do, get something else

fluffy_little_something · Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:22 pm

C-note wrote:The new Dune 2.5 sounds great and some key sound issues have been improved but it is still a notch below Sylenth1 in the sound category. People that don't own Sylenth1 and use it with regularity can't really get a good sense of the monster it is. When I parse through my 6000 Sylenth1 presets something wonderful is always found. Also Sylenth1's random sound generator brings even more interesting sounds to life.

Interesting. I had the Dune 2 demo a few days ago (erroneously thinking it was already the updated version), so I played around with it, anyway, and just didn't really like it, the envelopes for instance. The sound itself is also less exciting to put it that way. I felt the same about Retrologue and Hive. Dune's effects are better, though. Although I must say that Sylenth's sound very good as well, just not with the default settings.

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:24 pm

When I bought DUNE 2 in 2014 I immediately sold Sylenth1 license, and I don't miss it one bit, both feature and soundwise (especially Sylenth's "shit" reverb algo). It was redundant. Now that v. 2.5 is out, even less...and even less when the wavetable editor is ready in the near future. I get from this synth the same sounds I got with Sylenth1 in the past, and way beyond Sylenth1 will ever be capable of. No silly "magic" needed, LOL.

That said, Sylenth1 is still good if you just want that mainstream sound that is present everywhere EDM focused and the gazillion presets that sound the same. $99 is a moderately good price for what it is

fluffy_little_something · Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:28 pm

I couldn't agree less

Again, it depends what kind of music you make. In EDM there is a kind of arms race going on. Since the music and lyrics as such are usually trash, people are trying to outsound each other with crazy modulation etc. I assume Sylenth can't keep up there due to its humble matrix and lack of 0df filters.

But not everyone makes EDM, I hate that type of music, I hate the supersaw sound, I hate irritating modulations. I am interested in the raw sound of a synth, and there Sylenth is my gold standard. Any other synth I demo has to sound better to me than Sylenth if I am supposed to buy it, and so far that has not happened.

Maybe I like exactly what you don't like about its sound, and vice versa.

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:42 pm

I couldn't agree more

But "raw sound" is another subjective matter, of course. I don't hear anything special in S1 raw sounds that I don't get in other synths either. Maybe I've got shitty ears or monitors..

fluffy_little_something · Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:48 pm

One of my favorite albums ever is Thriller, and Sylenth is very good at making the kinds of synth sounds used on it (except the sampled Emulator and Synclavier stuff, of course

).

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:21 pm

C-note wrote:The new Dune 2.5 sounds great and some key sound issues have been improved but it is still a notch below Sylenth1 in the sound category.

Bull.........

DUNE 2 is several notches above Sylenth 1 and yes I've owned Sylenth 1 for years. It's a great synth and owning both makes perfect synth but no it's not a notch above DUNE 2 in the sound category unless you mean there are more patches available for Sylenth.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:28 pm

Okay, here's what I did just for the hell of it.

I went to Synlenth1's site and listened to all 24 demo tracks just to get a decent idea of how it sounds, Sounds fine. Clean. Seems to get through the mix. Certainly a quality sounding synth.

Then I went to the Synapse Audio site and listened to the first 10 seconds of the Dune 2 demo, which I own. Can't hear a difference worth spending money on.

I don't know what this magic sauce is that people are hearing in Sylenth1 that they're not hearing in Dune 2 or any other synth, but to these 58 year old ears, and I'm sure any Joe Blow walking down the street with boom box on shoulder listening to whatever track made with either of these synths, I doubt they can tell the difference either.

Sylenth1 is certainly a fine sounding instrument but no, I do not hear THE SOUND that no other synth can do that I absolutely MUST have.

Maybe I'm just deaf and stupid.

fluffy_little_something · Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:38 pm

Just out of curiosity, which Dune 2 demo? There seem to be 4 demos, and they contain wavetable sounds as well, so it is not easy to compare them to the Sylenth demos.

I like the 5th demo of Dune 1. But of course it has more to do with the music than with the sound of the synth as such.

Of course there is no "magic" about Sylenth, it is just a program

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:39 pm

Guys, let's argue about taste, ok?

Btw, it's perfectly fine if you guys don't think the difference to what other synths offer isn't big enough to justify a purchase. Each to its like. Thing is just that there's also a hell of a lot of people who think Sylenth1 has been ahead of other synths sonically for quite some time, and that's what created such a hype about it. Nowadays, i would agree that there's probably a few synth which superseded it now, but until like 2011 or so, i couldn't really think of many soft synths which could have get the job dones better than Sylenth1 did. It surely sounds better, IMO, than Z3TA, Audjoo Helix, or Dune 1. IMO, it also sounds better than Dune 2, but that's rather personal preference because there's just some character i sort of dislike about it since the beginning. Ok, a bit arguing about taste too now, but the mass appeal kinda speaks for itself i guess.

Is the Sylenth 1 still good?