v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

[musicdevelopments]

Very good point, yellukhan!

[magicmusic]

Copying and pasting tracks works in v3.0. You need to click on the track area to make it the 'keyboard focus' area. Then the usual Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-X, Delete operations work. You can add a new track by pressing + (plus), or duplicate the selected track with phrases by pressing * (asterisk)

This is new in v3. You can check all actions associated with the track list under the Settings / Keyboard Shortcuts tab.

Regards,
Attila

Hi Attila, thanks this work. But if there is no mixer page anymore and show levels, what do you suggest to mix quick ?.
Maybe you only disable mixer page in the VST version of RC ?. Some Problems i find. IF you dont know what i write, let me know, my english is not good. I can then make a video and show you this.

When i add a VST instrument into track, the button to open VST instrument edit page is not show.

The area that must hit to resize main window is very small. the button look large.

When the horizontal scrollbar is not on left side, then the mousewheel when i am over track name(left side) do not scroll track list. it then scroll only as old RC do piano roll. only when scrollbar is full left, then feature to scroll tracks work ok

I have enable the option "Load once; plug in handles multiple Midi channels" because i like when i can set the channels on the track. So it is possible to use on a diffrent channel, diffrent sound and effects and compare by just switch channels. I see that this feature work in kontakt player(multiple track use the same kontakt VST), but not in sample tank 3 and uvi workstation i test. All support 16 input channels. but there are diffrent VST instances each track. I see also in the VST select list, no entry that let me choose the same instance.

In the phrase editor is a cursor bar show, but when i press play, this do not move, so i can not see what playpos it play. In 1 bar this is not important but in 2 or more bar phrases this is good to have, to see whats play. Same in the inspector. If it not too much work, maybe you can add that playcursor do show current position ?

The mux modular do not work in b7 too(see 1. post from me here). I am sure i use correct bit version. i test 32 bit version and 32 Bit version RC too. problem same. this requester come and RC freeze.

crashes i get with the b7 only when change from windows mme sound to asio. maybe if a soundcard can not open it crash. maybe a check if windows give access to this sounddevice can help

regards

[magicmusic]

I think i know wy the crashes by changing between ASIO happen. It is because the ASIO Channels: list is not update. I have a soundblaster z which have 6 channels and a 2 channel USB Audio codec. This is from the behringer UMC22. first when i start RC 3 b7 it show only 2 channels with the soundblaster Z ASIO and crash. Now i get 6 channels even if i choose USB Audio codec. it show always the output channels from soundblaster z. i dont know how i can change. but the good news, if all ist list as 6 channels audio, i get no chrash, when i change between ASIO and windows mme

[magicmusic]

In the phrase Editor when open Chord palette "Midi in" is enable by default. When i press keys on my midi keyboard i hear nothing. When i disable "Midi in" , then i can play on midi keyboard and i hear what i play with single notes. In the bubble help stand, when "midi in" is checked, then there can the chords select. Seem not work. It is great feature if this can work and in 1 octave can select the chords and other octaves can choose the chord variations, (m,sus2....)

[musicdevelopments]

Hi magicmusic,

MUX (VST Synth).dll works nicely with the latest beta version, I have just tried it.
I am pretty sure that error message is right. You get this error only when the dll file could not be loaded (windows LoadLibrary() function fails) and the most probable reason is a mismatch between 32/64-bit host/plug-in architectures.

The mixer panel was removed, because you can set volumes for the tracks either in the VST plug-ins, or with the Expression controller. The audio output volume slider was moved to Settings / Audio. So you may start playback and switch to Settings / Audio, and check&adjust the level to avoid clipping.

Thanks,
Attila

[magicmusic]

Hi Attila

Have you load the MUX VST synth in a track as instrument ?. In Settings VSTi and add, the mux64 bit VST is load correct in. I try now load the 32bit MUX version in 64 bit RC b7 what happen then. It come in the VSTi page when add this error message. so its sure the correct plugin is load. The 64 bit MUX bring the error later, when in track inspector in Instrument: MUX (VST Synth) is choose

regards

[musicdevelopments]

Yes, I loaded MUX VST Synth as a track instrument. I also tried saving and loading the composition, which worked well. The MUX VST plug-in correctly restored its settings.
If you found an issue, please send me the steps to reproduce it.

Thanks,
Attila

[Soman]

Attila, do you already know when the new beta without Midi reset will be ready so I can finally use Rapidcomposer professionally more than 2 years after the purchase date?

[magicmusic]

strange, i take now a look on the .rcinst file. and i find a old version from 17.8.2014 with same name, but it point to 32 bit MUX. I remember i try out demo earlier but in 32 bit. when i add and remove vsti, there is enable delete .rcinstfile. but this file is not delete, when i delete the VST

I see there is another option "overwrite existing instrument file". this is disable. i think i not change anything. I think that RC work ok, you need store .rcinstfile in 2 dirs 1 for 32bit 1 for 64 bit. but whats really strange, how this old file come in the rapidcomposerV3\db folder. the same file is in rapidcomposer\db

[musicdevelopments]

Attila, do you already know when the new beta without Midi reset will be ready so I can finally use Rapidcomposer professionally more than 2 years after the purchase date?

Hi Soman,

If you send me an e-mail I can build and upload the latest version immediately.
Now I uploaded the latest version for you, and will send you a PM with the download URL.

Regards,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

strange, i take now a look on the .rcinst file. and i find a old version from 17.8.2014 with same name, but it point to 32 bit MUX.

Ah, it is great that you found the reason. Sorry for the confusion. I think I should remove "Overwrite existing instrument file" and make it the default behaviour to avoid any issues. Also the 32/64-bit architecture should be displayed in the list of plug-ins.

Thanks,
Attila

[Soman]

Great, thank you! Will try it tonight. I hope I can finally work with RC now, because as a Logic user I had no real chance to do so as RC can't be run directly in Logic (only with a workaround like BC Patchwork‪) and controlling my synths in Logic over RC virtual midi was not possible so far, because every sound always got reset on playback start.
I am really looking forward to fully use RC now!

Attila, do you already know when the new beta without Midi reset will be ready so I can finally use Rapidcomposer professionally more than 2 years after the purchase date?

Hi Soman,

If you send me an e-mail I can build and upload the latest version immediately.
Now I uploaded the latest version for you, and will send you a PM with the download URL.

Regards,
Attila

[magicmusic]

strange, i take now a look on the .rcinst file. and i find a old version from 17.8.2014 with same name, but it point to 32 bit MUX.

Ah, it is great that you found the reason. Sorry for the confusion. I think I should remove "Overwrite existing instrument file" and make it the default behaviour to avoid any issues. Also the 32/64-bit architecture should be displayed in the list of plug-ins.

Thanks,
Attila

Yes, i think too the instrument files can overwrite and delete always when add or remove a VST. To use 32 bit and 64bit versions of RC together without problems(maybe for old plugins 32but sometimes), the rcinst files need store seperate for both.

sorry for the many reports, but this are the last 3 things i currently after longer usage find.

1. It seem the heavy distortion clicks when level is too high of a instrument happen, that a 16 bit variable do wrap around and it is not clip. normaly when a value get larger as 32767 then need do a line as this and use a long variable. if output > 32767 then output = 32767. but current RC code do then maybe 32769 appear, which mean near full - opposite level. this give bad loud clicks. Maybe it happen only on my CPU ?. I have no AVX CPU. its a intel i5 760 (4* 2.8 GHZ). have only sse.

2. I notice that it happen with bass lines that have only same note in small display and zoom is not easy to select the phrase. maybe there can on y on top 6 pixel more for phrase click area add ?. On top stand the phrase name, so can click too in name to select a phrase. This bigger area let faster activate a phrase

3. ist most problem. Its hard to explain, so see in video, i mail to your Mail Address. In short, if there are more phrases in 1 phrase and press in phrase inspector the button "preview phrase in the composition with all unmutet Tracks" it happen that there are phrases delete until 1/1 is show. this happen after more seconds. see in video. I use to show the newcomposition Ambient 1 example, so that you can try and see yourself.

[max.noise]

Hi Attila,
I haven't posted for quite some time, but would like to chime in here and report some issues that I found .
Currently I am running RC 3.0b7 on Windows7 64bit.

Track variations issues:
The length slider of the 'Adjust note length v2' doesn't work correctly when trying to adjust it's value in the track header. It works fine, when adjusting it in the track variations window and the slider in the track header reflects the changing value, but adjusting the value in the track header doesn't work.
Trying to add the highest note slider in the 'Limit note range' variation to the track header leads to a reproduceable crash as soon as I want to adjust the value. But RC starts to add a little weird before that: when I have clicked the eye-icon of highest note it is no longer possible to delete, move or add variations in the track variations window, sliders can not be added or removed from the track header by clicking on any eye-icon etc.
A small issue: the slider of the variation 'Humanize' in the track header reads 'Amount', but it should read 'Humanize' to be recognizable.

Visual piano roll issue:
And finally a big one for me, that was already there in 2.x and I am wondering that I did not stumble upon it before:
Chord changes between the downbeats are not reflected correctly in the piano roll. I often like the chord changes to be pushed by an 8th note for example, but in the piano roll the chord notes change already on the downbeat before the chord change. The behaviour of the phrases is correct though, it's only visually confusing.

See attached screenshots, snaggy doesn't work atm.

Greetings from Germany
Max

[Soman]

Attila, before I was even able to try the beta, I found this reliably replicable bug:
Click on "Type Chord Name" and then cancel makes Rapidcomposer crash every time.