Cubase SX issues

[cold c]

Hm, ok. Not bad, but IMO another workaround.
See, many (if not most SX) users are working with virtual instruments these days. As they are "producing audio directly" (just as any plain audio track), the functionality should at least be offered for VSTi tracks (in Logic it's just like that and I can tell you it's a time saviour). Will check though.

Separate VSTi tracks are not necessary IMO, as the program knows that the MIDI is routed to a VSTi, and therefore should provide a few extra buttons in the inspector or on the track. It is just an oversight, unfortunately there is so much "noise" at forum.cubase.net that many suggestions like that have been made many times and get lost amidst the disorganisation.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Sascha Franck]

Midi Timing:

needs setting up the same way Logic does, Logic was never an out of the box sollution for me.

I never set up anything regarding MIDI for Logic. Never.

MME driver tweaks, just type in the amount
(not that I have used MME since 1812 (bc)

Lowest number you can enter is 512 = 12ms.
In Logic the audio engine is asking the driver first (with all three cards tested so far) and is using the values supllied by them. Only works under XP but its working pretty damn well.

Mixer: (see other posts) 1 click and your there.

So-so-ish. Not exactly working for VSTi tracks.

SX2 is NOT Logic, thank f**k.

And I didn't expect it to be. And my complaints generally weren't like "I wish SX would be Logic" but they were about essential things, such as MIDI and audio driver support. Which (following the posts made here) are an issue.

Best

[RoyNoahJones]

[Sascha Franck]

And by the way, topaz, I WILL get a Mac for myself for sure, sometime this year.
But I HAVE to learn Cubase for that university thing...
I've been sincerely hoping it'd reveal some pleasant surprises (oh well, yes, I actually allready like them MIDI plugins), but instead I'm having major trouble with quite some rudimentary performance things - I thought they MUST've been fixed by now...

[waveriderarts]

Well, am I wasting my time here? If you can move a file, you can do it, and it is a permanent fix. Don't be so negative, if you do it once you will be drowned in shame for having such an attitude...

[Sascha Franck]

The round "e" button opens the instrument channel settings, but the same functionality doesn't exist on the MIDI track (it opens the MIDI channel settings), you can drag the automation track next to the MIDI track and use the "e" button on that for easy access.

Could you elaborate again?
When I click on the "e" button with an automation track selected it just brings me to a MIDI mixer track as well (with all the various MIDI plugins and settings).
I'd like to go straight to the audio mixer settings instead.
And then, if there's no such option, how do I get there as fast as possible?
for audio tracks it's just as one would expect, fine. But for VSTi tracks quite some clicking and/or scrolling seems to be required.

Thanks

[Sascha Franck]

Well, am I wasting my time here? If you can move a file, you can do it, and it is a permanent fix. Don't be so negative, if you do it once you will be drowned in shame for having such an attitude...

Eh... well. I can't seem to find any option to get rid of all the emulated stuff.
Cubase.net brings up tons of hits, mostly outdated because 2.2 wasn't even present back then.

And btw, I'm not exactly negative but somewhat dissapointed because I expected the basic things to work more or less straight out of the box. I mean, I'm not talking about any mysterious performance tweaks or whatever, all I want is to get MIDI timing straight.

[waveriderarts]

And btw, I'm not exactly negative but somewhat dissapointed

Yeah I really understand! I did not mean to put you down... You know, I have been experiencing months of bad timing without knowing that was a setup thing.... I taugh I was sick or something.... at one point, narrowing it down, I was recording quarter notes at a slow BPM, and when recording I could hear my playing was fine, but when I pressed stop I could see the notes shifting themselves in time; for a minute I taugh the whole world was REALLY against me!

So, you are lucky that we take care of you here and spare you of a nervous breakdown!


Agreed it should be Steinberg's job! They should put a big sticker on the box!

move the file ignoreportfilter
from steinberg/cubase/MIDI port enabler.

full info at www.jay.fm/miditime

[Erki]

MIDI is rock solid for me in SX 1 and 2. Just get rid of the [Emulated] crap, and your'e good as golden.

Devon

Most people have the problem regardless if they disable the emulated ports or not though.

Seems so strange that Cubase must rely on Windows midi/directx. Steinberg should re-work that stuff completely.

[cold c]

The round "e" button opens the instrument channel settings, but the same functionality doesn't exist on the MIDI track (it opens the MIDI channel settings), you can drag the automation track next to the MIDI track and use the "e" button on that for easy access.

Could you elaborate again?
When I click on the "e" button with an automation track selected it just brings me to a MIDI mixer track as well (with all the various MIDI plugins and settings).
I'd like to go straight to the audio mixer settings instead.
And then, if there's no such option, how do I get there as fast as possible?
for audio tracks it's just as one would expect, fine. But for VSTi tracks quite some clicking and/or scrolling seems to be required.

Thanks

This is a "workaround"-

The "e" button on the MIDI track will always bring up the MIDI channel settings.

The "e" button on the VST instrument channel track (next to the automation track in the VST instruments folder) will always bring up the instrument channel settings.

The VSTi channel track can be "dragged" next to the MIDI track so the "e" button on the channel track can be used to navigate to the instrument channel settings window.

EDIT : Or just click "e" in the mixer like I do (I always hide MIDI tracks in the Mixer).

Eh... well. I can't seem to find any option to get rid of all the emulated stuff.

I would provide you with a direct link to the info but forum.cubase.net is not working very well at the moment. For reference it is in the information and resources section at the top of the Cubase SX forum. Or just use the info in the link provided by WaveRiderArts above.

[topaz]

not me either, midi timing is rock solid.

MIDI is rock solid for me in SX 1 and 2. Just get rid of the [Emulated] crap, and your'e good as golden.

Devon

Most people have the problem regardless if they disable the emulated ports or not though.

Seems so strange that Cubase must rely on Windows midi/directx. Steinberg should re-work that stuff completely.

[topaz]

ahh, I was refering to the Asio setup.

to open a vsti track just click the (little piano icon) or to bring up the whole channel setting click the e button.

Midi Timing:

needs setting up the same way Logic does, Logic was never an out of the box sollution for me.

I never set up anything regarding MIDI for Logic. Never.

MME driver tweaks, just type in the amount
(not that I have used MME since 1812 (bc)

Lowest number you can enter is 512 = 12ms.
In Logic the audio engine is asking the driver first (with all three cards tested so far) and is using the values supllied by them. Only works under XP but its working pretty damn well.

Mixer: (see other posts) 1 click and your there.

So-so-ish. Not exactly working for VSTi tracks.

SX2 is NOT Logic, thank f**k.

And I didn't expect it to be. And my complaints generally weren't like "I wish SX would be Logic" but they were about essential things, such as MIDI and audio driver support. Which (following the posts made here) are an issue.

Best

[kritikon]

Sorry, but Cubase is Steinberg - you should expect to have to set a few things up - you always have had to. I remember when first using 5.1 it irritated the snot out of me, all the settings I had to tweak to get it right for my setup - but eventually I figured out what I was doing, and it was rock solid ever since.

It's for educational purposes - many of your students are probably going to buy Cubase for their own use, so like it or not, you're going to have to look into all the settings pages to suss it out so that you can teach them about it.

Emulated drivers? What type of shite soundcards are the uni using that you need to use emulated drivers instead of the ASIO ones? Even cheapo cards have faster drivers than anything within Windoze. If the uni can afford to buy 15 copies of Cubase and the PCs to go with them, then they ought to be able to afford functional cards, surely - I feel it's a case of poor equipment, not poor s/w myself.

And don't beat yourself up - a new host always takes ages to find how to do things quickly - I assure you SX will do most of what you want, you just need to slow down and try to find the architecture of it. I know SX is going to do my own head in when I get it.........but I also know that probably any performance flakiness will be because I've set it up wrong.

Do you seriously expect SX to work out of the box on any system? There are so many permutations of h/w that it's frankly impossible for Steinberg to make it work with all systems.

[Sascha Franck]

So, you are lucky that we take care of you here and spare you of a nervous breakdown!

Apparently I am, because...

[/quote]
move the file ignoreportfilter
from steinberg/cubase/MIDI port enabler.

full info at www.jay.fm/miditime[/quote]

Yay! That did the job!
Not sure whether it was the time stamp option or the ignoreportfilter thing, but things seem to work fine now!
So at least my major issue has been sorted for now.
the [emulated] ports are still there, but who cares...

Btw, I just stumbled across something that IMO is a bug. I dragged a note around in key edit and it was copied rather than only being dragged. It's not reproduceable, but it allready happened 3 times. Following cold c's post my editors are now linked.
Anybody else ever had that?
Btw, it's not that the typing keyboard is sticky so the ALT key would've been pressed accidentally.