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tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:27 am

Well the infomation I glean from that video is that it is 4 oscillators. Like I said if that's not the case then all the better.

Actually I recall seeing a post over at Gearslutz talking about it being paraphonic too, but to be honest I'm only skim reading anything over there.

For $500 I'd still buy it even if it was monophonic

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:28 am

Also, the subject on it being paraphonic is kind of unclear, because this PlugInGuru guy first said it was paraphonic, but then he also said this:

"I have one here next to me - it's a single filter / Amp section in the analog domain. You can't have one sound with one filter setting and another sound with a different filter setting at the same time. Only 1 filter/EG setting affecting the sound. And it's duophonic - not paraphonic (2 notes, ability to detune but it's playing the same waveforms)."

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:30 am

tehlord wrote:Well the infomation I glean from that video is that it is 4 oscillators. Like I said if that's not the case then all the better.

Actually I recall seeing a post over at Gearslutz talking about it being paraphonic too, but to be honest I'm only skim reading anything over there.

For $500 I'd still buy it even if it was monophonic

Just to be clear, if it is paraphonic that pertains to the filter and not the oscillator/voices. There's speculation that there's just a single analog filter for all four voices, which would then make it paraphonic. But it still remains to be confirmed by Korg directly as this PlugInGuru guys leaves very strange statements (see my previous post).

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:32 am

eXode wrote:Also, the subject on it being paraphonic is kind of unclear, because this PlugInGuru guy first said it was paraphonic, but then he also said this:

"I have one here next to me - it's a single filter / Amp section in the analog domain. You can't have one sound with one filter setting and another sound with a different filter setting at the same time. Only 1 filter/EG setting affecting the sound. And it's duophonic - not paraphonic (2 notes, ability to detune but it's playing the same waveforms)."

What he describes here isn't the same thing as paraphonic, he just says that you can't have one voice with one filter settings and then another sound with another filter setting (i.e. layering). Most analog polyphonic synths today tend to have a shared control for the cutoff and resonance, and not a separate control per voice.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:33 am

So nobody knows.

Plugin Guru's statements are often as strange as his sound design.

Cool patch bro, what would you use that for?

Erm.........

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:36 am

Confusion is total.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:37 am

The Sweetwater description pegs it at '4 voices' with '8 voice modes', including things like 'Chords' and 'delay'. It also states 'Analog signal path includes 2 x VCOs, 1VCF, 2EG, 1VCA, and 1LFO'.

It does not say '4 oscillators' or anything like that. And it clearly has a control panel laid out for two oscillators (with slightly different functionality for eac)h, as well as a mixer stage which adds noise to two oscillators.

So for those who are saying it only has 4 oscillators, then if there's a mixer for VCO1 vs VCO2 v Noise, and any 4-voice mode uses 'all' 4 oscillators, could you explain why you think the panel is laid out for 2 VCO's and how you think the 'chord' and 'delay' voice modes are going to work properly for patches with noise?

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:39 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
So for those who are saying it only has 4 oscillators, then if there's a mixer for VCO1 vs VCO2 v Noise, and any 4-voice mode uses 'all' 4 oscillators, could you explain why you think the panel is laid out for 2 VCO's and how you think the 'chord' and 'delay' voice modes are going to work properly for patches with noise?

No

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Magic?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:43 am

tehlord wrote:Actually I recall seeing a post over at Gearslutz talking about it being paraphonic too, but to be honest I'm only skim reading anything over there

Yes, looks like one random guy said 'oh, its undoubtedly paraphonic' out of nowhere, and with no justification or evidence.

Clearly proof enough for some.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:46 am

eXode wrote:
eXode wrote:Also, the subject on it being paraphonic is kind of unclear, because this PlugInGuru guy first said it was paraphonic, but then he also said this:

"I have one here next to me - it's a single filter / Amp section in the analog domain. You can't have one sound with one filter setting and another sound with a different filter setting at the same time. Only 1 filter/EG setting affecting the sound. And it's duophonic - not paraphonic (2 notes, ability to detune but it's playing the same waveforms)."
What he describes here isn't the same thing as paraphonic, he just says that you can't have one voice with one filter settings and then another sound with another filter setting (i.e. layering). Most analog polyphonic synths today tend to have a shared control for the cutoff and resonance, and not a separate control per voice.

Yeah, exactly; they're not multitimbral. That doesnt mean they are paraphonic.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:47 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
tehlord wrote:Actually I recall seeing a post over at Gearslutz talking about it being paraphonic too, but to be honest I'm only skim reading anything over there
Yes, looks like one random guy said 'oh, its undoubtedly paraphonic' out of nowhere, and with no justification or evidence.

Clearly proof enough for some.

Well there's more 'evidence' to it than that.

Apparently Mr Plugin Guru has corrected himself on his own youtube video by saying it has one filter per voice etc etc.

I might just buy one and make sounds with it. If it is indeed 4 note polyphony with all the juice per note then great.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:57 am

PluginGuru:

+Pete Brown - correct. It's not multi-timbral and is one filter per voice. Sorry for the confusion guys. Too many years working with digital synths. LOL

All aboard the hype train!

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:59 am

tehlord wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
tehlord wrote:Actually I recall seeing a post over at Gearslutz talking about it being paraphonic too, but to be honest I'm only skim reading anything over there
Yes, looks like one random guy said 'oh, its undoubtedly paraphonic' out of nowhere, and with no justification or evidence.

Clearly proof enough for some.
Well there's more 'evidence' to it than that.

And yet noone will actually provide it.

Apparently Mr Plugin Guru has corrected himself on his own youtube video by saying it has one filter per voice etc etc.

So the evidence you say exists, but havent posted was bollocks anyway?

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:16 am

All I can say is wow. Looks stunning, sounds stunning, price is stunning.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:27 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
tehlord wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
tehlord wrote:Actually I recall seeing a post over at Gearslutz talking about it being paraphonic too, but to be honest I'm only skim reading anything over there
Yes, looks like one random guy said 'oh, its undoubtedly paraphonic' out of nowhere, and with no justification or evidence.

Clearly proof enough for some.
Well there's more 'evidence' to it than that.
And yet noone will actually provide it.

Apparently Mr Plugin Guru has corrected himself on his own youtube video by saying it has one filter per voice etc etc.
So the evidence you say exists, but havent posted was bollocks anyway?

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