Celemony Melodyne 4 released

[kelvyn]

Can anyone who upgraded from Studio 3 tell me how much they paid?
It's a little confusing on the Melodyne site.

I'm also a little disappointed that they have'nt upgraded the algorithm for pitch as it is a little artifacty on some audio tracks.

[Klinke]

Paradoxical, because the Melodyne was, in the first place, invented for the vocal use,

This doesn't match how I remember the introduction of Melodyne in the market. I heard it the first time before the release at the music fair in Frankfurt, and they presented it in the context of a lot of different instruments. Or take a look at the following screenshot of the review of Melodyne 1 in Sound on Sound (http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/nov01 ... tion.l.gif).

[paulbreeze]

The Editor to Studio for 149 EUR/USD price is a promo until 4/30/2016. In the video @musotalk.de Stefan mentions a price around 300 EUR for this upgrade.

@kelvyn :
Update from Melodyne studio 3 to Melodyne 4 studio €149

[Krakatau]

@musotalk.de Stefan mentions a price around 300 EUR for this upgrade.

Aouch !!!!!!!

[SirkusPi]

Although I'm disappointed that there's apparently no update to the vocal pitch algorithm, I truly do give Celemony full credit for not doing some very minor tweak just so they could plaster "new and improved mono algorithm" on the update page. Rather, they updated what they chose to update, and didn't change what they chose not to, and are letting consumers decide whether the update is worthwhile for them. It may or may not be for me, but that doesn't change that I appreciate Celemony's honesty.

[pheeleep]

If you get Melodyne Studio 4, does this include a licensed copy of the Melodyne editor 4 as well or do you only get the studio version of Melodyne (the multitrack version)?

[CinningBao]

Some forum users (though it has now been shut down) have been offered the chance for a free upgrade, so if you used the Celemony forums check your mails - you may be entitled to a free upgrade

[jezjez]

Audiodeluxe has discounts on upgrades, (PluginDiscounts too)
Editor -> Studio $126 (doesnt say which version of editor, i assume any?)
Editor -> Editor 4 $84 (says from version 1 but I assume from any version would be ok?)

[lingyai]

I love Meloldyne. For innovation, usability, support and general attitude, Celeomy is about as good s it gets in my book.

That said, the only new feature which would really interest me is the tempo detection / ediitng feature. But I'm not sure if it will do what I want.

I have a project which, to keep this (real example) consists of a guitar played without a click, so naturally the tempo varies, from around 70-76 bpm.

I want to be able to accompany this track using some kind of software, such as EZKeys, a synced arp, etc. But these require tempo information.

I have tried using Melodyne Editor 2 to "standardize" the tempo to the midpoint (73 bpm), but the results are not good -- 73 might be the mathematical average, but the ear says "No!" It sounds strange and obviously manipulated.

So I have another idea. Maybe I could open the guitar track in Melodyne 4, save it as midi, and so save not only the pitch data but also the timing changes data; and then open the midi file in Sonar or Studio One, and so have the tempo changes already in place. Then within Sonar I could use EZKeys or whatever, which react to tempo changes.

Would this work, do you reckon?

[Harry_HH]

Although I'm disappointed that there's apparently no update to the vocal pitch algorithm, I truly do give Celemony full credit for not doing some very minor tweak just so they could plaster "new and improved mono algorithm" on the update page. Rather, they updated what they chose to update, and didn't change what they chose not to, and are letting consumers decide whether the update is worthwhile for them. It may or may not be for me, but that doesn't change that I appreciate Celemony's honesty.

Well, unfortunately there is also the alternative that the new Melodyne 4 is worse than the previous version. That scenario is even worse than your "minor tweak algorithm".
I don't know because I have not bought (and will not) the update, but there are user experience to that direction, see e.g.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-c ... tment.html

[Sampleconstruct]

I love Meloldyne. For innovation, usability, support and general attitude, Celeomy is about as good s it gets in my book.

That said, the only new feature which would really interest me is the tempo detection / ediitng feature. But I'm not sure if it will do what I want.

I have a project which, to keep this (real example) consists of a guitar played without a click, so naturally the tempo varies, from around 70-76 bpm.

I want to be able to accompany this track using some kind of software, such as EZKeys, a synced arp, etc. But these require tempo information.

I have tried using Melodyne Editor 2 to "standardize" the tempo to the midpoint (73 bpm), but the results are not good -- 73 might be the mathematical average, but the ear says "No!" It sounds strange and obviously manipulated.

So I have another idea. Maybe I could open the guitar track in Melodyne 4, save it as midi, and so save not only the pitch data but also the timing changes data; and then open the midi file in Sonar or Studio One, and so have the tempo changes already in place. Then within Sonar I could use EZKeys or whatever, which react to tempo changes.

Would this work, do you reckon?

Why don't you use tempo-mapping in your DAW, it's a bit of manual work but it's not a big deal, Logic has a tempo-mapping feature for exactly these purposes, not sure about the DAW you're using.

[lingyai]

I love Meloldyne. For innovation, usability, support and general attitude, Celeomy is about as good s it gets in my book.

That said, the only new feature which would really interest me is the tempo detection / ediitng feature. But I'm not sure if it will do what I want.

I have a project which, to keep this (real example) consists of a guitar played without a click, so naturally the tempo varies, from around 70-76 bpm.

I want to be able to accompany this track using some kind of software, such as EZKeys, a synced arp, etc. But these require tempo information.

I have tried using Melodyne Editor 2 to "standardize" the tempo to the midpoint (73 bpm), but the results are not good -- 73 might be the mathematical average, but the ear says "No!" It sounds strange and obviously manipulated.

So I have another idea. Maybe I could open the guitar track in Melodyne 4, save it as midi, and so save not only the pitch data but also the timing changes data; and then open the midi file in Sonar or Studio One, and so have the tempo changes already in place. Then within Sonar I could use EZKeys or whatever, which react to tempo changes.

Would this work, do you reckon?

Why don't you use tempo-mapping in your DAW, it's a bit of manual work but it's not a big deal, Logic has a tempo-mapping feature for exactly these purposes, not sure about the DAW you're using.

Thanks Simon. I'm using Sonar for now (and then Studio One once I finish my Sonar "legacy projects"). As the tempo varies a lot, and sometimes continuously, rather then with discrete changes, I could imagine that could take forever to nail. Something which could do the job well in a minute or so would be well worth the upgrade price for me.

Although...just read on Gearslutz that the pitch algorithms don't sound as good as before. I'll have to try the demo and see for myself.But if it's true, and it's true that, as was written here, upgrading means giving up your old license, I might just stay put.

I also wonder whether the new version might have any ARA bugs as relate to Sonar (superbly implemented now) or S1....

[SLiC]

Tempo Mapping is Amazing in Studio One....

[lingyai]

Tempo Mapping is Amazing in Studio One....

Mmm, nice. Thanks. That answers my first question!

[Sampleconstruct]

I love Meloldyne. For innovation, usability, support and general attitude, Celeomy is about as good s it gets in my book.

That said, the only new feature which would really interest me is the tempo detection / ediitng feature. But I'm not sure if it will do what I want.

I have a project which, to keep this (real example) consists of a guitar played without a click, so naturally the tempo varies, from around 70-76 bpm.

I want to be able to accompany this track using some kind of software, such as EZKeys, a synced arp, etc. But these require tempo information.

I have tried using Melodyne Editor 2 to "standardize" the tempo to the midpoint (73 bpm), but the results are not good -- 73 might be the mathematical average, but the ear says "No!" It sounds strange and obviously manipulated.

So I have another idea. Maybe I could open the guitar track in Melodyne 4, save it as midi, and so save not only the pitch data but also the timing changes data; and then open the midi file in Sonar or Studio One, and so have the tempo changes already in place. Then within Sonar I could use EZKeys or whatever, which react to tempo changes.

Would this work, do you reckon?

Why don't you use tempo-mapping in your DAW, it's a bit of manual work but it's not a big deal, Logic has a tempo-mapping feature for exactly these purposes, not sure about the DAW you're using.

Thanks Simon. I'm using Sonar for now (and then Studio One once I finish my Sonar "legacy projects"). As the tempo varies a lot, and sometimes continuously, rather then with discrete changes, I could imagine that could take forever to nail. Something which could do the job well in a minute or so would be well worth the upgrade price for me.

Although...just read on Gearslutz that the pitch algorithms don't sound as good as before. I'll have to try the demo and see for myself.But if it's true, and it's true that, as was written here, upgrading means giving up your old license, I might just stay put.

I also wonder whether the new version might have any ARA bugs as relate to Sonar (superbly implemented now) or S1....

I haven't upgraded myself yet, but that post on GS says nothing until you have tested it for yourself, why would they de-prove their algos, only iZotope does that (or used to do that until they understood).