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nousndthem · Post by **nousndthem** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:22 pm

Yea.
It's seems to get some of them but not all.

Thanks for the help with this.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:02 pm

No problem.

nousndthem · Post by **nousndthem** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:08 pm

I'm going to try to find someone at the NI forum to write a script to "restore all loop points from sample" for a whole instrument that takes care of this issue.
I'll let you know if I get any results.

nousndthem · Post by **nousndthem** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:11 pm

I see this in all of the Symphonic folders (of course) but there's nothing below 99_

Do these folders need to be sorted by an other method than name to get 99_
into the correct place to show where the Original Emerald Patches are?

Thanks!

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:17 pm

nousndthem wrote:I see this in all of the Symphonic folders (of course) but there's nothing below 99_

Do these folders need to be sorted by an other method than name to get 99_
into the correct place to show where the Original Emerald Patches are?

Thanks!

What is the exact name of the folder in your example?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:24 pm

nousndthem wrote:I see this in all of the Symphonic folders (of course) but there's nothing below 99_

Do these folders need to be sorted by an other method than name to get 99_
into the correct place to show where the Original Emerald Patches are?

Thanks!

Nevermind. I found the issue. For some reason, your OS has decided to omit any files whose names have a space as their first character. In this particular forlder, any file that does not start with "16" should have a space before the existing name. That way, the list sorts correctly.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:45 pm

Hmm, I have had a look here too.

That folder is:
K:\Kirk Hunter Studios\Diamond Orchestra\22_Symphonic_Violas\1_Symphonic_Violas_Instruments
and it contains 148 .nki files (none after the "99__ORIG_EMERALD_PATCHES_BELOW.nki".

OS? Windows 7 64-bit.

Does that mean that all Windows 7 systems have a bunch of inaccessible nki files? Did they ever get installed?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:47 pm

DarkStar wrote:Hmm, I have had a look here too.

That folder is:
K:\Kirk Hunter Studios\Diamond Orchestra\22_Symphonic_Violas\1_Symphonic_Violas_Instruments
and it contains 148 .nki files (none after the "99__ORIG_EMERALD_PATCHES_BELOW.nki".

OS? Windows 7 64-bit.

Does that mean that all Windows 7 systems have a bunch of inaccessible nki files? Did they ever get installed?

No, not inaccessible. They just got renamed. The problem is that in doing so, the order gets messed up.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:11 pm

OK, thank you. So, in that screenshot the nki files that start with '20' to '27' are the original Emerald files? And a similar principle applies to the other folders?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:15 pm

DarkStar wrote:OK, thank you. So, in that screenshot the nki files that start with '20' to '27' are the original Emerald files? And a similar principle applies to the other folders?

That's right.

nousndthem · Post by **nousndthem** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:57 pm

Windows sorts numbers first then letters and not all Symphonic folders have all instruments with numbers leading the names, so I'm still not seeing a consistent pattern for how to fix this.

Can you have a look and give us a more complete idea of how to fix this?
Thanks!

nousndthem · Post by **nousndthem** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:52 am

KirkHunter wrote:
nousndthem wrote:
Nevermind. I found the issue. For some reason, your OS has decided to omit any files whose names have a space as their first character. In this particular forlder, any file that does not start with "16" should have a space before the existing name. That way, the list sorts correctly.

Just a FYI ...
Neither Windows XP or Windows 7 will allow a space at the front of any file, so I'll assume (but can't verify)
it's the same with all Windows OS.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:06 pm

nousndthem wrote:Windows sorts numbers first then letters and not all Symphonic folders have all instruments with numbers leading the names, so I'm still not seeing a consistent pattern for how to fix this.

Can you have a look and give us a more complete idea of how to fix this?
Thanks!

Actually, the list in the screenshot you provide is correct in its sorting.

CJ_83 · Post by **CJ_83** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:27 am

KirkHunter wrote: Yes, Studio, Concert and Symphonic are all different samples. Studio refers to a smaller section than Concert and is culled from Ruby. Symphonic is the largest section culled from Emerald. (Note, that Diamond combines the older Emerald library [Symphonic, Chamber] with the newer Ruby library [Concert, Studio].)

Sorry to rehash this from earlier in the thread, but I'm a bit confused with this and haven't been able to find the info anywhere.

In videos of Diamond I see references to symphonic, concert, chamber and studio sections. Are each of these all actual different samples recorded in different spaces?

I see there are also whole, half, quarter and solo divisions. Does this mean that there are the four different divisions for each of the symphonic, concert, chamber and studio sections?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:34 pm

The Concert, Studio and Chamber sections were recorded more "dry" than Symphonic. There are sets of instruments called TVEC3 and TVEC4. Those combine Concert, Studio, Chamber and solos all in one instrument so you can quickly change section sizes. The "Symphonic" section is never used in any TVEC3 or TVEC4 programming. Again, all samples are completely different that each other with regard to the named sections.

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