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Mokafix · Post by **Mokafix** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:07 am

Hey,

I just got some data from a BM US reissue owner and updated Muffin Rider with it.
Here is the A/B result (0% sustain, and 100% sustain, both with tone set to treble).

BM US reissue vs. Muffin Rider A/B comparisons.mp3

Capacitors values are way higher (1u) than on my own black sovtek version (0.1u).
this gives the whole circuit a much lower hipass resonance, around 1Hz! (make it behave "wildly" i guess, with the sound kicking roof and floor clipping tresholds randomly in the next element in the chain).
Also the gain stages capacitor, the one next to the diodes loops is 1u instead of 0.047u which is a ridiculously huge difference.
Makes the gain stages completely different.
From emulation analysis point of view, the 0.047u gain stage is more interesting, but I admit the sound difference isn't as dramatic as the response to test sounds may suggest.

Still, the black and the US reissue definitely sound different, and I guess that guitar players playing them for some time would probably notice differences in dynamics too.

futurefields · Post by **futurefields** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:12 am

I have a US reissue and i honestly can't stand the thing, and can't wait to get it off my pedalboard and replace it with a more dynamic fuzz box. The thing is just way too compressed with the unfortunate combination of not being able to cut through a mix well. So you end up having to basically turn it up way too loud to hear yourself over cymbals and what not. And then when the other instruments cut out it's way too loud.

Nice to have around for recording, when you want that wall of sound fuzz, but just not practical as an all around fuzz box imo.

Digideus · Post by **Digideus** » Mon May 21, 2012 3:28 am

I havent read all 17 pages of this thread yet but boy, does this subject lower the bar!

Basically, if there is an accurate muff clone VST, thousands of doom metal fans will rejoice. I prefer more of a distortion tone myself, but the guitarist in my band used a classic big muff straight into a Marshall JVM head and gets a huge tone. He used it to record this as well...

Basically, his big muff straight into a boss digital recorder and then the files were reamped through a vintage orange amp in the studio. Sounds a bit noisy around the edges, but basically, that is pretty much the sound of doom metal.

now, if that was possible with a free vst... it would make a lot of people I know very happy.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:11 am

Digideus wrote:I havent read all 17 pages of this thread yet

Did you know that the last post was nearly 2 and 1/2 years old?

Digideus · Post by **Digideus** » Mon May 21, 2012 11:56 am

yeah, but a decent fuzz VST would be cool

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon May 21, 2012 12:16 pm

Muff in Amplitube 3

Muff in TH-2

Mokafix Muff
http://mokafix.com/en/muffin-rider.html

chokehold · Post by **chokehold** » Mon May 21, 2012 12:26 pm

electro wrote:Mokafix Muff
http://mokafix.com/en/muffin-rider.html

Good luck finding that. ^^

mokafix store wrote:Dear users, Mokafix Audio store is now closed. It's been a real pleasure to work on these plugins, and your recognition was really appreciated. All the best, Efflam

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Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:05 pm

Hi,
any news on this?

Is face bender still the best free Fuzz VST?

What do you think about Reaper's Distortion-Fuzz FX?

Chris

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:27 pm

I've never found a software plug in that I like as much as a hardware fuzz box. I love the one inside the Kemper, but for more impolite sounds, I still turn to a Zvex Fuzzfactory. It's not like they're really expensive, but so worth it.

electro · Post by **electro** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:05 pm

Mokafix had the best Muff. Today there is a Muff VST for UAD.

kvrboy · Post by **kvrboy** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:13 am

Midiworks wrote:take the worst distortion vst you can find,
but it will be better than Big Muff...

Perhaps you misread the question .. I don't think he was asking for your opinion

kvrboy · Post by **kvrboy** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:16 am

Hink wrote:
Midiworks wrote:take the worst distortion vst you can find,
but it will be better than Big Muff...
I can't even begin to tell you how much I agree with that...much of my blah blah blah...but back in the day it really wasn't all that

So I guess you can't answer the question

kvrboy · Post by **kvrboy** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:20 am

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chokehold wrote:
electro wrote:Mokafix Muff
http://mokafix.com/en/muffin-rider.html (http://mokafix.com/en/muffin-rider.html)
Good luck finding that. ^^

mokafix store wrote:Dear users, Mokafix Audio store is now closed. It's been a real pleasure to work on these plugins, and your recognition was really appreciated. All the best, Efflam

Copyright © 2010 Mokafix Audio. All Rights Reserved.

Thats a damn shame, and thanks for some great products

spacekid · Post by **spacekid** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:24 am

Wow, nice thread...I have recently been discovering how great Digital Performer is with guitar. The included pedals are the bomb. And the Amps are great, so win-win.

ontol · Post by **ontol** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:35 pm

Big Muff VST