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Thanks for pointing that out :)

Thinking it's safe to say reason 8.3 is too. The only thing that is a bit odd is that the browser doesn't always have the proper arrows (for example, a refill) but not 100% sure that is it. Clearly 8.4 will be though for those wanting to wait.

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Well, after seeing that all of my hardware and major audio software is reported to be compatible with Windows 10, I pulled the trigger and upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 8.1. I am now experiencing drop outs with audio playback now -- some short, some several seconds long -- wonderful! :x
[Core i7 8700 | 32GB DDR4 | Win11 x64 | Studio One 7 Pro | WASAPI ]

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I don't understand. I'm the unluckiest guy in the world and FL and reason have worked VERY well with 10.

EDIT. Double check your power settings. Both of these machines required me to reset to "performance" after the update. It's worth a shot to mention.

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tonedef71 wrote:Well, after seeing that all of my hardware and major audio software is reported to be compatible with Windows 10, I pulled the trigger and upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 8.1. I am now experiencing drop outs with audio playback now -- some short, some several seconds long -- wonderful! :x
SOLVED: My O Deus ASIO Link Pro driver was the culprit. When I upgraded to Windows 10 (in-place install over Windows 8.1), the ASIO driver had become unregistered and reverted back to trial mode; I failed to notice that.
Registering ... will remove the very annoying sound break ups in trial mode. Thank you for registering!
Once I re-registered the O Deus ASIO driver with my purchased product key, the problem went away. :phew:
[Core i7 8700 | 32GB DDR4 | Win11 x64 | Studio One 7 Pro | WASAPI ]

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Now that that is solved, what the hell is http://odeus-audio.com.au/odeus/AsioLinkPro ??

Never heard of it but always interested in anything that may improve performance. Is the primary function to record stuff from the net? Latency improvements over good ASIO? Stable?

Also confused about the "demo" since if it adds what you are talking about it's pretty much worthless to try.

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incubus wrote:Now that that is solved, what the hell is http://odeus-audio.com.au/odeus/AsioLinkPro ??

Never heard of it but always interested in anything that may improve performance. Is the primary function to record stuff from the net? Latency improvements over good ASIO? Stable?

Also confused about the "demo" since if it adds what you are talking about it's pretty much worthless to try.
One of the limitations of ASIO drivers is that they can only support one audio application as a time; you have to close out the current audio application to free up the driver for use with another. I purchased ASIO Link Pro so that I could have a commercially supported solution to this limitation; ASIO Link Pro is an audio routing tool that has the capability to share an ASIO driver (such as ASIO4All) with multiple audio applications simultaneously; this feature is enabled by clicking a check box "Enable multi-clients". ASIO Link Pro has other features as well (e.g. such as sending audio data over a network), but I purchased it for the ASIO driver sharing feature.

Previously, I had been using Jack Audio Connection Kit for 64-bit Windows along with VB-Audio ASIO Bridge and HiFi driver to provide this functionality, and it worked fine, but I noticed that Jack Audio does not get updated very often (maybe it does not need to); I wanted to be able to get support (e.g. updates and bug fixes), and I was willing to pay for that support.
[Core i7 8700 | 32GB DDR4 | Win11 x64 | Studio One 7 Pro | WASAPI ]

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Very interesting, thanks for the info :)

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Running great here for me using Cubase Pro 8. I've found stability to be better than in 8, but then again I am running on a new mobo/CPU/GPU. Same Babyface though.

The only issue I've had is a MOTU FastLane midi interface I seldom use not working. It was actually causing me the occasional BSOD until I found out it was the culprit!

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I have been miserable for some years because I thought my Lexicon Omega was crap. I was running Win7 on an i5 processor with 8GB of ram and I barely got more out of it than my old Pentium III from 2003. Yes, some days it was awesome and sounded almost great. Other times, the signal started to crackle, fade in and out and subsequently crash until I ended the session and started all over again. I constantly had delays in monitoring the signal during recording and playback. In fact, although I had recorded in takt, the result was a mix of slight delays in midi and wav files. Unacceptable.

I heard about the better latency and dedicated processing times of Win10 but didn't like the look. I heard that the processor could be dedicated to handle dedicated programs and events so that when other apps run in the background, the CPU doesn't overload.

I upgraded from Win7 yesterday to Win10 with great fears that my recording setup would get worse. And when I loaded apps after the upgrade,they indeed took longer to load than under Win7. Even Reaper took a very long time to load...BUT, once loaded, there were zero delays (latency) and the sound was pristine and clear. I am currently a very happy man. I bought another audio interface online two days ago because I thought the crackle and latency was due to the Lexicon. But it was Windows all along. To make sure I wasn't dreaming, I maxed the system by adding more plugins and it did not crackle or crash. ALL VSTs work under Win10. ALL programs work. My update preserved my Win7 files and settings. Great update.

My advice to those wanting to alleviate crackling and latency issues is to upgrade to Win10. If you are running Win7, you can preserve your settings into Win10 and if need be roll back to Win7 within 30 days.

Like I said, Lexicon Omega was faultless and sounds better than it ever has thanks to zero latency and zero crackling (distortion). Try it!

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Zig wrote:And when I loaded apps after the upgrade,they indeed took longer to load than under Win7. Even Reaper took a very long time to load..
Try checking "Run this program as an administrator" under Compatibility tab of a program's Properties. When I was running the preview a year ago, that (having it unchecked) alone was the reason why Ableton Live and plugins inside it were loading noticeably slower than on Windows 7.

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Hi BojanKerkez,

good tip. I'll try that.

By the way, I found out yesterday that Win10 hadn't installed correctly according to a Microsoft online technician as the 'Mail' app wasn't functioning properly. Several techs worked on my computer via remote and stuffed it up by not transferring settings and software into a new profile they had created. Long story short, I asked them to revert my computer back to the time before their technicians touched it.

It should be noted that upgrading from Win7 to Win10 does pose risks. Microsoft should make their upgrades foolproof and better train their technicians because they all suck seriously.

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tonedef71 wrote:One of the limitations of ASIO drivers is that they can only support one audio application as a time; you have to close out the current audio application to free up the driver for use with another. I purchased ASIO Link Pro so that I could have a commercially supported solution to this limitation; ASIO Link Pro is an audio routing tool that has the capability to share an ASIO driver (such as ASIO4All) with multiple audio applications simultaneously; ....
No, that's not a limitation of "ASIO drivers" (per se) - it's a limitation of ASIO4ALL, which is not a real ASIO driver but a Directsound wrapper.
I can use my ASIO driver (MOTU Ultralite Mk3 Hybrid) in multiple applications at once.

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I like Windows10 OK I still like Windows7 better. I've had some WTF moments with W10 , ex. I render, close my DAW , open up windows media player and nothing , restart computer and wah la its working on media player . Windows10 has GrooveMusic I thought it'd be like Windows Media Player but it wasn't lolz could open rendered wav files in it or couldn't figure out how to ? What a waste of a shiny app ... I've had Trackion 6 close or not respond at times , I've had the CPU go to 100% after a render with Valhalla Vintage Verb getting crazy just off the wall stuff . I reinstalled my EchoAudiofire 4 drivers when I upgraded W10 , its just not a smooth system right now but its not a show stopper either , so I didn't go back to Windows7 . I feel slower using Windows10 .

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T-CM11 wrote:
tonedef71 wrote:One of the limitations of ASIO drivers is that they can only support one audio application as a time; you have to close out the current audio application to free up the driver for use with another. I purchased ASIO Link Pro so that I could have a commercially supported solution to this limitation; ASIO Link Pro is an audio routing tool that has the capability to share an ASIO driver (such as ASIO4All) with multiple audio applications simultaneously; ....
No, that's not a limitation of "ASIO drivers" (per se) - it's a limitation of ASIO4ALL, which is not a real ASIO driver but a Directsound wrapper.
I can use my ASIO driver (MOTU Ultralite Mk3 Hybrid) in multiple applications at once.
+1, with my scarlett I can use it in both live and bitwig at the same time on asio

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ezelkow1 wrote:
T-CM11 wrote:
tonedef71 wrote:One of the limitations of ASIO drivers is that they can only support one audio application as a time; you have to close out the current audio application to free up the driver for use with another. I purchased ASIO Link Pro so that I could have a commercially supported solution to this limitation; ASIO Link Pro is an audio routing tool that has the capability to share an ASIO driver (such as ASIO4All) with multiple audio applications simultaneously; ....
No, that's not a limitation of "ASIO drivers" (per se) - it's a limitation of ASIO4ALL, which is not a real ASIO driver but a Directsound wrapper.
I can use my ASIO driver (MOTU Ultralite Mk3 Hybrid) in multiple applications at once.
+1, with my scarlett I can use it in both live and bitwig at the same time on asio
You are probably right then, as I do mostly use ASIO4ALL to wrap my laptop's Realtek HD sound driver. Thanks to the likes of software such as Jack Audio Connection Kit for Windows, ASIO Link Pro, and now my new up-and-coming favorite, Voice Meeter Banana, the ASIO4ALL driver is so much more usable as an audio driver.
[Core i7 8700 | 32GB DDR4 | Win11 x64 | Studio One 7 Pro | WASAPI ]

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