KVR Audio

duncanm · Post by **duncanm** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:42 am

The clicking this is rather overdone, if you ask me. I've never not been able to get rid of it if I don't want it. If it will be a bother to someone, then can easily decide not to buy it.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:08 pm

LOL I don't think there is a single KVR user in this thread who can't afford 500$.

But...
In most instances that someone says it is a good synth, that someone also mentions the price.
That tells us something.
Imagine that people who don't want to buy this synth, for one reason or another, just don't need that 500$ sound - maybe they already have some 2000$ hardware, or maybe they are good enough with software that their software sounds better than that.

And about the clicks:
Look at the spectrogram marinedalek posted above.
Do i really need to say anything more ?

ps. If you don't already have your unit, i wish yours will be free of this issue.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:31 pm

Mutant wrote:LOL I don't think there is a single KVR user in this thread who can't afford 500$.

..apart from the poor conceited trailer boys making pseudo-scientific analyses on the internet that are even greater insults to the concept of "pseudo" than that of "science".

Mutant wrote:Look at the spectrogram marinedalek posted above

Yeah great! Now you only need to analyse all other vids from start to end to show it is a general problem.

At best, you may conclude that his unit suffers from general clicking problems but I have not seen any real proof of anything, just claims that a spectrogram show this or that problem instead of just normal clicks.
Can't see anything not already revealed in the audio version.

Mutant wrote:If you don't already have your unit, i wish yours will be free of this issue.

Thanks, but if the patch on the click-vid is the only one where it is so prominent, I can live with it. In all other vids Minilogue sounds great to me

And you shouldn't LOL so much. It is bad for your stomach, and it certainly doesn't make you look superior in any sense. Did you really think that?

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:34 pm

Mutant wrote: Do i really need to say anything more ?

Has not needing to say something ever stopped you before ?

Mutant, you're a borderline troll. Maybe someone else will take the bait, and engage you on this shit, but I've grown weary of your tired routine. It's one thing to engage in these shenanigans in the software sub-forum, where you actually have a genuine role of participation. But it's another thing to drag it into a hardware sub-forum.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:11 pm

Now here is something to LOL about. Here is a video where the clicking guy just makes a general demo if his oh-so-broken-and-clicky synth. There is just this problem that it is pretty hard to hear all the disasterous clickings on these patches.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:15 pm

1. That video is not the only one with clicks in wrong places.
2. More users on GS have the same problem.

Whats the word on the clicky VCA's? for example on patch 026 Burn Low. Really cool patch, but it clicks at the beginning...... I haven't updated the firmware yet, does that halp?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... st11648802
3. It is strange how you two are defending obviously faulty hardware like lion mothers would defend their cubs.
4. Your "normal clicks" mean you have 0 idea about the matter, "normal clicks" are made with short A and D parts of the envelope with S set to some low value, the clicks on the ML happen BEFRIGGINFOREYOUFRIGGINAMATEUR the A part, both if it is set to short and medium time AND AT THE END OF THE NOTE, which to anyone with at least a basic idea of how synthesizers work shows clearly that it is some DC offset fault with the VCA, not anything wrong with the EG.
5. Obviously i wouldn't say anything about the clicks if they were intentional, then i would only complain about low poly and child/woman hand friendly keys.
6. I never said that the problem exists in all units.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:51 pm

Man you are really lame. I have just shown you a video proving that whatever clicks there are certainly not regard all patches of the click-mans unit and yet you try to tell us it got nothing to do with settings, which is what we mean by "normal clickes". How are you going to pull that off Einstein?

Either his unit/all units have a general clicking problems or it doesn't /they don't. Evidence so far point to the latter. All other points from you are nothing but avoidance by change of goal-posts. We have seen that strategy from you before. You do not fool anyone but yourself.

Just creep back under the stone from which you came and weep, troll-wannabee. You are absolutely no one and deep inside you know it

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:52 pm

IncarnateX wrote:Now here is something to LOL about. Here is a video where the clicking guy just makes a general demo if his oh-so-broken-and-clicky synth. There is just this problem that it is pretty hard to hear all the disasterous clickings on these patches.

It is not about if it is hard or easy to hear (and yes i can hear it in some parts of the video), it is there and it should not be there.
Obviously the clicking is a problem only in some patches, on other sounds it can be a feature.
Look at the oscilloscope around 9th minute, see the DC offset ? Thats the source of the clicking.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:56 pm

IncarnateX wrote:Evidence so far point to the latte

So what are you trying to say ?
That in the screenshot of the waveform i posted it really should behave that way and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it ?
Please say "yes", because then i will not waste any more of my time on someone who just will not understand.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:02 pm

Waht I am saying is that you just changed your verdict from speaking of minilogue as a broken synth and wishing that I wouldn't get such a broken unit to claiming (or admitting) that it may only consider a few patches. Of the latter we agree, so lets just stick to that, my little changeling

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:04 pm

IncarnateX wrote:Waht I am saying is that you just changed your verdict from speaking of minilogue as a broken synth and wishing that I wouldn't get such a broken unit to claiming (or admitting) that it may only consider a few patches. Of the latter we agree, so lets just stick to that, my little changeling

These two dont contradict each other.
If the synth can do A, but can't do B, it will be broken if compared to a synth that can do both.
Some people will buy it for 500$ accepting all its faults, some will save the money, add 2000$ and buy 2 properly working Prophet 08 desktop modules and have 16 voices and way more features and clicks only when they want them to click.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:18 pm

Mutant wrote:
If the synth can do A, but can't do B, it will be broken if compared to a synth that can do both.

It is so funny when you creep away like that. If what you meant by "broken" was "it is generally a good synth but on a few patches there are some undiserable clickings due to a fault" you should have specified this, otherwise people may think that broken really means broken. Goes without saying, doesn't it?

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:25 pm

IncarnateX wrote:
Mutant wrote:
If the synth can do A, but can't do B, it will be broken if compared to a synth that can do both.
It is so funny when you creep away like that. If what you meant by "broken" was "it is generally a good synth but on a few patches there are some undiserable clickings" you should have specified this, otherwise people may think that broken really means broken. Goes without saying, doesn't it?

So lets assume that yours will click and some other KVR users unit does not.
That would mean that only some units are affected.
Will you send it back to the shop so they can send you one that doesn't click ?
Or will you be perfectly satisfied with your "not broken at all", but "it is generally a good synth but on a few patches there are some undiserable clickings" unit ?

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:39 pm

Stop these pathetic rationalisations attempts for your own sake. Only an idiot wouldn't recognise your posts on this clicking issue as claim about a general problem...a claim, which failed. You were caught with your pants down and now you try to explain yourself with your tiny willy pointing to goals or semantics and not the synth you just tried to hit with your pissing beams. You wet yourself. Now go get dry.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:48 pm

Mutant wrote:So lets assume that yours will click and some other KVR users unit does not.
That would mean that only some units are affected.
Will you send it back to the shop so they can send you one that doesn't click ?
Or will you be perfectly satisfied with your "not broken at all", but "it is generally a good synth but on a few patches there are some undiserable clickings" unit ?

I dare you to answer my question.
Send it back or keep it.
Simple.

Korg Minilogue