Opcode Studio Vision

[trimph1]

Great, another REAPER thread.

Eventually all threads become Reaper threads.

[memyselfandus]

There is nothing Studio Vision did which isn't now replicated elsewhere, but it was great for it's time. Arranging a song was like performing clips in Ableton and then editing that in the arrange view. There was also the ability to trigger transposed versions of a sequence polyphonically from a keyboard. I guess Squareheads Nora is the closest modern equivalent.

You Forget that you could have complete sequences running nested inside other sequences. This way, you can have, for exemple, a sequence, written in 3/8 running inside anotjher sequence that has a base tempo, and tracks, in 4/4. It plays inside the 4/4 but stil in 3/8.

THIS

[fmr]

There is nothing Studio Vision did which isn't now replicated elsewhere, but it was great for it's time. Arranging a song was like performing clips in Ableton and then editing that in the arrange view. There was also the ability to trigger transposed versions of a sequence polyphonically from a keyboard. I guess Squareheads Nora is the closest modern equivalent.

I would like to know more about this.

Vision had a window where we could have several sequences open at the same time, and all active. Each sequence had a letter assigned to it. Also, the sequences could be triggered by MIDI. Each sequence could be triggered at the original pitch from the computer keyboard (by pressing the letter assigned to it) or could be "played" from the MIDI keyboard, if it was assigned to it.

You could also create a "sequence of sequences", which has its own master tempo, but each nested sequence runs as a "block" nested in the main sequence, but still has its own tempo track, etc. With that feature, you could create arrangements where you quickly drag entire sequences, one for the chorus, one or more for the bridges, one for the verses, one for the solos, and you could rearrange that very fast by drag and drop each "block". DP chunks work more or less the same way, but you cannot have more than one block active, while in SV these could be layered,

That's where people started to mess around, and sometimes created really crazy things.

The window where we had all the sequences opened at the same time is something that, AFAIK, still no other sequencer has, as of today. The closest thing to that is the "chunks" window in Digital Performer, but the way DP deals with "chunks" (a "chunk" can be an entire sequence) is not as advanced as Studio Vision (see above).

[memyselfandus]

There is nothing Studio Vision did which isn't now replicated elsewhere, but it was great for it's time. Arranging a song was like performing clips in Ableton and then editing that in the arrange view. There was also the ability to trigger transposed versions of a sequence polyphonically from a keyboard. I guess Squareheads Nora is the closest modern equivalent.

I would like to know more about this.

Vision had a window where we could have several sequences open at the same time, and all active. Each sequence had a letter assigned to it. Also, the sequences could be triggered by MIDI. Each sequence could be triggered at the original pitch from the computer keyboard (by pressing the letter assigned to it) or could be "played" from the MIDI keyboard, if it was assigned to it.

You could also create a "sequence of sequences", which has its own master tempo, but each nested sequence runs as a "block" nested in the main sequence, but still has its own tempo track, etc. With that feature, you could create arrangements where you quickly drag entire sequences, one for the chorus, one or more for the bridges, one for the verses, one for the solos, and you could rearrange that very fast by drag and drop each "block". DP chunks work more or less the same way, but you cannot have more than one block active, while in SV these could be layered,

That's where people started to mess around, and sometimes created really crazy things.

The window where we had all the sequences opened at the same time is something that, AFAIK, still no other sequencer has, as of today. The closest thing to that is the "chunks" window in Digital Performer, but the way DP deals with "chunks" (a "chunk" can be an entire sequence) is not as advanced as Studio Vision (see above).

Hell yes

[BITWORD]

Correct me if I am wrong, but that can't be done today ^^^^^

Maybe in DP or Logic though...

[memyselfandus]

Correct me if I am wrong, but that can't be done today ^^^^^

Maybe in DP or Logic though...

I don't think so. can anyone confirm?

[fmr]

Correct me if I am wrong, but that can't be done today ^^^^^

Maybe in DP or Logic though...

Logic can only work with one sequence at a time. DP, as I said, has something close (it can work with many sequences opened in the same project), but the master sequence doesn't allow layering of nested sequences - they can just be arranged one after the other. But it's still the closest we currently have (although I suspect few people actually use that feature).

[EvilDragon]

OK so that definitely sounds like FL Studio patterns to me, minus the transposing part (but I think it's doable somehow, FL has lots of ways of doing things) and minus separate timeline per pattern.

Reaper's subprojects can be layered (as opposed to DP's chunks), though (and each subproject has its own timeline, of course)!

[Phase47]

I loved Opcode Vision. What a great ecosystem for pure creativity. I really haven't felt that way since. Live comes close, but Vision, at that time, was amazing.

[memyselfandus]

minus separate timeline per pattern


Looks like layering of nested sequences would be a killer feature to have in a newer daw.

[memyselfandus]

OK so that definitely sounds like FL Studio patterns to me, minus the transposing part (but I think it's doable somehow, FL has lots of ways of doing things) and minus separate timeline per pattern.

Reaper's subprojects can be layered (as opposed to DP's chunks), though (and each subproject has its own timeline, of course)!

But fl has the weird time sig thing still

from what I have seen.. Reapers subprojects look incredible but look completely different. especially the workflow? not sure




can someone do a video showing this stuff using Studio Vision?

here is a link with all the Vision Resources/Files
http://web.archive.org/web/200902111714 ... ision.html

[BITWORD]

The beauty of the nested sequences in SVP was being able to 'expand' them (forget the word they used) into a linear sequence and then you could edit, re-nest, etc.... Was a lot of fun to experiment this way with arrangements and then regain total control over a linear sequence.

[memyselfandus]

The beauty of the nested sequences in SVP was being able to 'expand' them (forget the word they used) into a linear sequence and then you could edit, re-nest, etc.... Was a lot of fun to experiment this way with arrangements and then regain total control over a linear sequence.

this is something I have been looking for! for years

[BITWORD]

Gotta build a time machine

http://web.archive.org/web/199701010029 ... pcode.com/

(I love the way old 90s websites look)

[whyterabbyt]

The beauty of the nested sequences in SVP was being able to 'expand' them (forget the word they used) into a linear sequence and then you could edit, re-nest, etc.... Was a lot of fun to experiment this way with arrangements and then regain total control over a linear sequence.

Sounds a bit like Tracktion's Edit Clips?