Midi antialiasing app? Devs?

[Sleek Month]

So here's the deal.

I have one of those radium 61 keyboards with all the little knobs and sliders.

It's great, except that the resolution on the knobs and sliders is too low...so if you try to do a filter sweep or something, it comes out sounding jagged and stepped rather than as a smooth slope.

Now, I was wondering two things.

1). Is there any "midi input transformer" app that would smooth the midi input? (Effectively antialiasing the slope...kind of like a midi portameto function, I guess) If not, could this be done? (Toby? Are you there? Rene? )

2). Are there any synths that have a feature like this? (I mainly use it with pentagon 1 and Zeta+...I imagine if anyone would incorporate this feature, it'd be Rene).

...so there you go.

Discuss?

-S.

[torhan]

Did you look around at http://www.tencrazy.com/gadgets/? There might be something there...

[Mirabebe]

FL Studio contains built-in antialiasing for remote control.

[Lady J]

Mackie Control.

[whyterabbyt]

Didnt you understand the question then, LJ?

[Robert Randolph]

That's not really aliasing.. unless you're thinking of it in a very vague graphic sense...even then still a bit off

Even with 1+1+1+1+ midi parameter messages many synths and filters will have that sound because they were not designed with that specific use in mind. Contact the developers.

Then again m-audio is notorious for just plain sucking, so maybe their controller is sending 1+3+2+4+13+1+3 etc.. messages. If so, Id complain to them. Or move the knob slllllooooowwwwwlllllyyyyy

[smart]

thats basically what happens. It doesn't send info for the entire 270 degrees it should. it's more like 180 degrees, and the numbers go +1+2+3+2+3+1+4+2+1+2+1+1+2 etc.

[Sleek Month]

That's not really aliasing.. unless you're thinking of it in a very vague graphic sense...even then still a bit off

Yah. That's exactly what I mean...I'm a graphics guy by day...when you export a vector object as a bitmap object, you have the option of antialiasing, which basically smoothes the edges by averaging so you don't get so much nasty step-shaped pixelization...

Even with 1+1+1+1+ midi parameter messages many synths and filters will have that sound because they were not designed with that specific use in mind. Contact the developers.

I swear that's what it is...does anyone know the resolution on the knobs on the radium? I swear I hear a sweep as 128 steps...

Any more info on the fl built-in stuff?

-S.

[Markleford]

Did you look around at http://www.tencrazy.com/gadgets/? There might be something there...

Not yet, at least. Odd that my brother asked just today about this too...

Any solution that I'd put together would have to be an MFX plugin, so you'd be stuck with a Cakewalk host or the newest Cubase versions.

Also, it's nigh impossible to make a real-time solution for this, as it requires peeking into the future, or at least a good amount of buffering latency (which makes playing suck). But so far as recording a track with the zippering/aliasing, and *then* interpolating the middle values after the fact, that's okay.

- m

[carmen]

you do, midi is limited to 0 to 127. you might want to 'smooth' midi CC and convert it to VST param data which is 32-bit floating point and therefore much less prone to 'stepper' artifacting.. in 'pure data' you could achieve this by just connecting the midi input to a 'line' object..which will interpolate given a certain delay/smoothing period...i suppose there are a few vst hosts that proably do this as well, Fruity maybe..

[Sleek Month]

Any solution that I'd put together would have to be an MFX plugin, so you'd be stuck with a Cakewalk host or the newest Cubase versions.

Hmmm...

I'm thinking that something at the driver level would be the deal(?)...leave the host out...

...mind you, it's all greek to me.

What about the "portamento" thing? If it'll smooth between notes, couldn't a variation work for knobby data?

-S.