UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[tonedef71]

Please make the Pace installer a selectable option rather than having it run automatically each time we install a new version; it's tedious always having to cancel the Pace portion of the installer.

+1

Thankfully, the PACE installer is smart enough to realize that I already have the latest version installed, but I, too, would prefer the ability to opt out of having the PACE installer be run at all.

[jacobh]

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How often do you need to post that synth list of yours?

I, for one, appreciated seeing the list of synths to know what he has to compare it to that it comes out on top of. It's helpful for comparison. Thanks Wag.

[jacobh]

...yes, this is a feature request, PLEASE add more phase distortion options, especially sync. They will help a lot.

Thank You for making a feature request!
It is remarkable that we all want more.

I agree! These are some things I'd really like to see as well. Especially the last 3 types, which one oscillator affecting another:
FM
RM
AM

I know some of those are partially covered in individual oscillator types, such as the FM osc, and the drum osc, but I'd really like to be able to add some FM or RM or AM to a Wavetable oscillator.

And while we're on the subject, it would be nice if we could use a phase distortion (like PWM) and oscillator hard sync at the same time, like you can with the analog oscillators. Aren't the analog oscillators basically just single cycle wavetables anyways? It seems like the wavetable oscillators in Omnisphere can use both PWM and Hard Sync at the same time, so I'm guessing Falcon must not be too far away from being able to do it?

[PatchAdamz]

Please make the Pace installer a selectable option rather than having it run automatically each time we install a new version; it's tedious always having to cancel the Pace portion of the installer.

+1

Thankfully, the PACE installer is smart enough to realize that I already have the latest version installed, but I, too, would prefer the ability to opt out of having the PACE installer be run at all.

Very good point.

[overhishead]

Btw really - there is any idea why no demoversion for falcon ? I thought it was the specificity of the initial release stage. Well, why there is demoversion for the same sparkverb for example. No, its not critical ofcourse, but what's the catch, just wondering.

careful, i asked that question much more politely and got trolled hard by seasoned plugin experts who never heard the phrase 'software demo.'

[c_voltage]

Btw really - there is any idea why no demoversion for falcon ? I thought it was the specificity of the initial release stage. Well, why there is demoversion for the same sparkverb for example. No, its not critical ofcourse, but what's the catch, just wondering.

careful, i asked that question much more politely and got trolled hard by seasoned plugin experts who never heard the phrase 'software demo.'

Oh, i already also began to regret that asked this question
Well, at least I would not like to see this question has caused discomfort for the uvi\falcon creators (maybe some specific things, like protection etc) because it is very important that they are here.

[wald]

Btw really - there is any idea why no demoversion for falcon ? I thought it was the specificity of the initial release stage. Well, why there is demoversion for the same sparkverb for example. No, its not critical ofcourse, but what's the catch, just wondering.

careful, i asked that question much more politely and got trolled hard by seasoned plugin experts who never heard the phrase 'software demo.'

Oh, i already also began to regret that asked this question
Well, at least I would not like to see this question has caused discomfort for the uvi\falcon creators (maybe some specific things, like protection etc) because it is very important that they are here.

I really wish there had been a beta. Some things you cannot learn from videos but only after playing it...
No doubt it's a deep, versatile instrument. But after playing it for a while, I know I would not have bought it (had I had a demo version).

[Echoes in the Attic]

I do not understand not having a demo. Omnisphere is the only other one I can think of with not demo and that's because they claim that the sound library is too important that it wouldn't make sense to demo without it. I don't know if that still makes sense after all the new synthesis capabilities in V2, but oh well. With Falcon, this thing needs a demo. Do they at least offer full refunds within a certain time period like audio damage? And licenses are transferable right?

[tonedef71]

I do not understand not having a demo. Omnisphere is the only other one I can think of with not demo and that's because they claim that the sound library is too important that it wouldn't make sense to demo without it.

For its Mixbus product, Harrison Consoles is also one of those companies that does not provide a downloadable demo. According to their FAQ:

...[W]e do not currently provide a demo of Mixbus. It is our experience that learning a new DAW is a significant investment in a professional's time. We require that users purchase Mixbus, and we provide fast email support to help our customers install Mixbus and learn to use it effectively.

[Sampleconstruct]

IIrc UVI's Spark Verb didn't have a demo version when released, about a year later they then did provide a demo, so there is hope for Falcon maybe.

Also Wolfgang Palm/PPG does not provide demos(refund policy, I still bought 2 of his plugins (Phonem/Wavemapper).

[ThomasHelzle]

Usually I do not buy plugins/hosts without demo.
Falcon was an exception since even just the videos showed me that it's what I always wanted.
But it would have been good to be able to demo so I would have known beforehand that the surround mode does not work in any host I have (and in fact does not work in most hosts, even if they support all the channels you could want since UVI is sticking to the "specs" a bit too closely there... ).

I always was on the edge with Mach5 and it not having a demo played a big part in me never buying it.

I can understand the reluctance in providing a demo in some cases, since demo users put strain on the support team and download servers and you have to have a working copy protection strategy for it and the content that comes with it etc.

But it would be good to see a demo after a certain time, I'm sure it would create another wave of interest.

Cheers,

Tom

[c_voltage]

Btw really - there is any idea why no demoversion for falcon ? I thought it was the specificity of the initial release stage. Well, why there is demoversion for the same sparkverb for example. No, its not critical ofcourse, but what's the catch, just wondering.

careful, i asked that question much more politely and got trolled hard by seasoned plugin experts who never heard the phrase 'software demo.'

Oh, i already also began to regret that asked this question
Well, at least I would not like to see this question has caused discomfort for the uvi\falcon creators (maybe some specific things, like protection etc) because it is very important that they are here.

I really wish there had been a beta. Some things you cannot learn from videos but only after playing it...
No doubt it's a deep, versatile instrument. But after playing it for a while, I know I would not have bought it (had I had a demo version).

Too late, i bought (make upgrade) just now
No, i understand and agree about demo problem, but fortunately i used before M3 and already knew the subject, i.e. i would bought Falcon it in any case. But it is only in this case. But if user not had experience with M3 before, then it is really a difficult choice without demo.

So, ok. ASAP will install and test falcon via compare with M3 about cpu usage, face to face (since M3 installed now also), i promise to be impartial and use the same osc's , then write short result.

But after playing it for a while, I know I would not have bought it (had I had a demo version).

Btw if no secret - what the reason ?

[newuser2014]

For the wavetable 

[ErikH]

Thanks. Yes, I've been experimenting a lot with images in Falcon also and it is possible to do very weird stuff with them, especially the very simple ones.

Speaking of demo versions: I personally never install a demo. I know rather well what I want (music style) and which instruments/effects I'm interested in. Sometimes I read a manual, or listen to third-party demo's, watch a few tutorials, and there are also a few people whose opinion I trust.
I have rarely made a mistake - my first DAW, perhaps two synths and a very well known effects suite that is very good but did not inspire me - but then again I only use a few synths and effects.

It is a bit sad that it is not possible to sell a license though as the effects suite that was a bad buy for me was also protected with an iLok manager and after selling it, it was one of the easiest transfers of licenses I ever knew. I find it important for a company that all their customers are happy. But then again: I am not responsible for the finances of a company.

Me, I like Falcon a lot because its structure is so crystal clear. Relayer and the magic namje Ircam were enough to convince me and it's the synth I use most.

[c_voltage]

Well, tested (compared with MF3) through a couple instruments one by one, i.e. separately: 4 Slice samplers (during playback), Analog generator - default settings (unison 1), and in the end Analog Stack generator with enabled all 8 voices. Both analog's was play at maximum release and at max default part voices amount (16).
I think it's enough for a general comparison picture.

So, in general - good, but there are some points which is probably necessary to describe in detail separately.

Both analog generators (with the specified conditions) showed the same cpu load in both plugins (analog - 8-10%, analog stack - about 33%) - it's good, but excepting small strange cpu behavior in Falcon: in first moment of trigg sounding of Analog Stack the cpu show something about 48%, then if just close and open Falcon window again (during generator release playback ofcourse) then cpu drop to regular 33%. And it will not increase even if retrigg notes again during ADSR already works, but after disabled Release to zero and set to max again, and trigg notes, this behavior reproduced again.
I think need make some video and send to support, so it will be more efficient.

What about Slice samplers (4x) playback, here Falcon shown better perfomance - 5-6% vs 9-11% in mf3, although this test pretty superficially, but want to hope that the same touched for the overall samplers performance.

Another optional CPU related problem which was detected - this is "Use OpenGL renderer" mode in prefences. It seems made for reduce the cpu load, this feature on the contrary increases the load for some reason. (I use nvidia GTX 760).
In enabled state its caused huge cpu spikes during change Volume of any of Part levels for example. (In default disabled state - all smoothly).

Ok about cpu no more yet.

Overall, liked the new interface (design\workflow), here it made much better than in the ancestor, imo. And also VERY good\smoothly response\control from GUI elements , really appreciate it. (Although in MF3 it also was no problem, but nonetheless).

During the entire (short) time of use it did not have any freezes or crashes.