Me tooMeffy wrote:The one labeled "T.Conrar" made me check. Sure enough, Tim Conrardy was into Ataris. Sure do miss him.memyselfandus wrote:You see those 48 “clip slots”?
Dr. T’s KCS Keyboard Controlled Sequencer 1984
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camsr wrote:I love that graphic on the manual, so retro
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VariKusBrainZ wrote:Just checked and I bought v1.9 in 2004........so v2 could be out in 2024.memyselfandus wrote:So cool! How long ago was version 2 announced?VariKusBrainZ wrote:Quaderno was another amazing App for the Atari
http://tamw.atari-users.net/quad.htm
But better yet theres been a Windows version for years, I highly recommend it if you want to experiment.
Weve been waiting a long time for v2 to appear so don't hold your breath
At least its halved in price since then
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Cool stufffmr wrote:Metro was born in Dr T's as Beyond, and was already the work of Jeremy Sagan, and went later to OSC, as Metro, and Cakewalk, after that, before becoming independent.. It may have inherited some functions and features from KCS, but is not the same product, AFAIK.memyselfandus wrote: Looks like it went from Dr T's to OSC to Cakewalk then to Metro
http://www.sagantech.biz/
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Fun!des wrote:Wow....my first sequencer was Dr. T's KCS 128 for the Commodore 128 I had back then. Loved that sequencer! Eventually moved from that to Sequencer Plus Gold...
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I believe it went from Dr. T's to Beyond to Metro to OSC to CakeWalk and then back to Metro (and the original author, Jeremy Sagan). I'm (mostly) positive because I took that sequencer upgrade path myselfmemyselfandus wrote:Looks like it went from Dr T's to OSC to Cakewalk then to Metro
I do miss some of Jeremy's features, like the subsections and velocity stems. Very intuitive DAW imo.
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What were the subsections and velocity stems like? are those things in other daws now?johnrule wrote:I believe it went from Dr. T's to Beyond to Metro to OSC to CakeWalk and then back to Metro (and the original author, Jeremy Sagan). I'm (mostly) positive because I took that sequencer upgrade path myselfmemyselfandus wrote:Looks like it went from Dr T's to OSC to Cakewalk then to Metro
I do miss some of Jeremy's features, like the subsections and velocity stems. Very intuitive DAW imo.
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It was named Beyond when at Dr T's, changed name to Metro when at OSC, and was named Metro ever since, (at Cakewalk and later on in Sagan Technologies). And it was always the work of Jeremy Sagan, with presumably contributes from others, like for example the notation module, which I believe was from Overture (when Overture was also at Cakewalk, after the demise of Opcode).johnrule wrote:I believe it went from Dr. T's to Beyond to Metro to OSC to CakeWalk and then back to Metro (and the original author, Jeremy Sagan). I'm (mostly) positive because I took that sequencer upgrade path myselfmemyselfandus wrote:Looks like it went from Dr T's to OSC to Cakewalk then to Metro
I do miss some of Jeremy's features, like the subsections and velocity stems. Very intuitive DAW imo.
Fernando (FMR)
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That sounds about right. I also had Deck when I had OSC Metro. The very last iteration of Deck introduced reverb that was fail...reverb was not easy back thenfmr wrote:It was named Beyond when at Dr T's, changed name to Metro when at OSC, and was named Metro ever since, (at Cakewalk and later on in Sagan Technologies). And it was always the work of Jeremy Sagan, with presumably contributes from others, like for example the notation module, which I believe was from Overture (when Overture was also at Cakewalk, after the demise of Opcode).
The subsections are similar to folders in other DAWs, but you can easily chain sections together in a main track while maintaining the original (editable) subsection for quick editing.
The velocity stems are just easy to work with in terms of raising/lowering the velocity of a midi note. It is also quick to determine velocity behavior visually. Currently, in Reaper, I have a bar across the tiny rectangle of a note itself.
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- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Meffy wrote:The one labeled "T.Conrar" made me check. Sure enough, Tim Conrardy was into Ataris. Sure do miss him.memyselfandus wrote:You see those 48 “clip slots”?
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
I worked with KCS just a little bit, when my band was recording at a friend's studio. He was running it in an Amiga 2000. I remember it felt very primitive to me at the time, because I was using Vision which was a lot more graphical. The variation stuff does look interesting though.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- 1005 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
Good memories!
I used this one on my amiga untill I went over to PC in about 97 and started using Cubase. Absolutely great back then, although I remember that people who were into heavy manipulation of data and styles used some color orgy called "Bars & Pipes".
Best Regards
Roman Empire
I used this one on my amiga untill I went over to PC in about 97 and started using Cubase. Absolutely great back then, although I remember that people who were into heavy manipulation of data and styles used some color orgy called "Bars & Pipes".
Best Regards
Roman Empire
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Every once and while I bring up a synth patch to discover that Mr. Conrady designed the preset.... TC lives on.
memyselfandus wrote:Me tooMeffy wrote:The one labeled "T.Conrar" made me check. Sure enough, Tim Conrardy was into Ataris. Sure do miss him.memyselfandus wrote:You see those 48 “clip slots”?nice to see you meffy!
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I only got into the Amiga very late, towards the end of Commodore. I did get Bars&Pipes, but yes, it looked hideous and I could never bring myself to actually use it instead of Vision on my Mac.Roman Empire wrote:Good memories!
I used this one on my amiga untill I went over to PC in about 97 and started using Cubase. Absolutely great back then, although I remember that people who were into heavy manipulation of data and styles used some color orgy called "Bars & Pipes".
Best Regards
Roman Empire
The other thing I remember about the guy with KCS in his studio was that it was the one and only program he used on his Amiga. When he would boot up the computer, he had it set up with just one giant KCS icon to click and nothing else.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

