Waves central a complete bust!
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- KVRist
- 393 posts since 4 Apr, 2006
For those familiar with the issues that numerous users have experienced since waves central was introduced, I have exhausted nearly every possible remedy with no success whatsoever! I could never use it to download products, can't use it to make an offline installer, and it also will not install from the off-line installer I made using my 32bit Win7 laptop. There seems to be something specific about the 64bit version. I don't recall seeing complaints from anyone using 32bit systems? Nothing has changed with the latest updated Feb.2nd version.
The main work-around that many mention about the off-line installer... simply doesn't work in my case. Waves central will not install products under no circumstance on my 64bit machine. All other aspects of central works as expected with retrieving my licenses, listing my paid products as well as the entire waves catalog. However, installing any products is out of the question other than using the older v9.3 total product-line installer!
I was interested in purchasing a product they currently have on sale,but,that's a no go since since Waves offers no backup system, e.g. latest off-line installer in case of issues with central. With the number of issues that were reported at KVR, I don't understand how they could be that stupid to not offer an alternative download method! This is the first time I can truly say this copy protection scheme is absolutely horrific!
The main work-around that many mention about the off-line installer... simply doesn't work in my case. Waves central will not install products under no circumstance on my 64bit machine. All other aspects of central works as expected with retrieving my licenses, listing my paid products as well as the entire waves catalog. However, installing any products is out of the question other than using the older v9.3 total product-line installer!
I was interested in purchasing a product they currently have on sale,but,that's a no go since since Waves offers no backup system, e.g. latest off-line installer in case of issues with central. With the number of issues that were reported at KVR, I don't understand how they could be that stupid to not offer an alternative download method! This is the first time I can truly say this copy protection scheme is absolutely horrific!
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- KVRAF
- 8649 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
Overall my experiences with waves central have been negative. The final straw
for me was when I decided to disconnect my win 8 pc from my Microsoft account,
Waves central interpreted that to mean a completely different machine and thus
invalidated all my lic's. They offered to let me call them on my day off so they
could remotely poke around in my pc to see what was up. I was less than thrilled
with the prospect and have since written off the 4 or 5 lic's I have with them
as a loss.
Every similar copy protection scheme installed on my PC Ilok, etc didn't even
flinch at that, only the waves...
I no longer have any interest in their products I'm afraid...
-Cheers
for me was when I decided to disconnect my win 8 pc from my Microsoft account,
Waves central interpreted that to mean a completely different machine and thus
invalidated all my lic's. They offered to let me call them on my day off so they
could remotely poke around in my pc to see what was up. I was less than thrilled
with the prospect and have since written off the 4 or 5 lic's I have with them
as a loss.
Every similar copy protection scheme installed on my PC Ilok, etc didn't even
flinch at that, only the waves...
I no longer have any interest in their products I'm afraid...
-Cheers
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- KVRian
- 820 posts since 30 Nov, 2011
I am on Win 7 64-bit. There's some workaround by deleting a couple of folders to make it work. Write to support, they will let you know about it. It worked for me, but I had to do it again later. A pain in the ...!
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- KVRian
- 983 posts since 5 Aug, 2015 from Up, Up in the Cloud
Waves are aware that there is an issue with the Central for accounts that use non-english characters.
They are working on fixing this and should have a fix soon.
They are working on fixing this and should have a fix soon.
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- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 19879 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6277515
https://www.google.com/search?q=Waves+p ... 8&oe=utf-8
https://www.google.com/search?q=Waves+p ... 8&oe=utf-8
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRian
- 945 posts since 13 Oct, 2006
dll's for the win 
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- KVRAF
- 19879 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Typical Theo drama so i am not surprised. Cheers.TheoM wrote: It's typical Tek to try seek and destroy someone's post or credibility, so i am not surprised. Cheers.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from New York
I am on Windows...not a single problem ever...and with 99% of the rest of the plugins
that many users experience all kinds of issues...except Cubase. I barely ever have a
problem with a plugin except obvious bugs...maybe once in 2-3 years due to my error.
that many users experience all kinds of issues...except Cubase. I barely ever have a
problem with a plugin except obvious bugs...maybe once in 2-3 years due to my error.
Reality is a Condition due to Lack of Weed!
- KVRAF
- 2393 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land
Me too. Including the Cubase thing funny enough.BasariStudios wrote:I am on Windows...not a single problem ever...and with 99% of the rest of the plugins
that many users experience all kinds of issues...except Cubase. I barely ever have a
problem with a plugin except obvious bugs...maybe once in 2-3 years due to my error.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 393 posts since 4 Apr, 2006
Just to be clear, I haven't had issues with running Waves plugins. The issue is only with Waves central running on my Win7 64bit. I also didn't have issues with the previous WLC application either. The central app runs and I can sign-in as well as see my products. However, I can't download any of the products nor make an off-line installer without getting a generic- Sorry an error occurred message! It can never tell you what actually happened as an error.TheoM wrote:pixel85 wrote:TheoM - i never had problems with waves for years on windows. How you explain this? Miracle?
of course not.. that's likely the most COMMON scenario, to be trouble free. I explain it that your OS admin settings are correct, and that you are using a fully waves supported OS and DAW
The interesting thing is that the offline installer I made with my 32bit system-also results in the same error message when I try to use the installer on my 64 bit Win7. Central detects the thumb-drive automatically, but still can't install any files without an error. If anybody tried discoDSP's Bliss sampler, you'll recall there were plenty of issues happening when they switched to visual studio 2015. They ended up switching back to an earlier version.
When central is installing, I see it's using 2005 redist versions. This old package may be causing conflicts on certain 64bit win systems that may or may not have certain updates. Central performs as expected on my 32bit Win7 laptop! When I originally posted my issue in the forum, I included a log from the windows event viewer that's generated consistently.
Here's the typical log: Activation context generation failed for "C:\Program Files (x86)\Waves\Applications\Waves Central\Waves Central.exe".Error in manifest or policy file "C:\Program Files (x86)\Waves\Applications\Waves Central\WavesQtLibs_5.1.1_Win32_Release\WavesQtLibs_5.1.1_Win32_Release.MANIFEST" on line 8. Component identity found in manifest does not match the identity of the component requested. Reference is WavesQtLibs_5.1.1_Win32_Release,processorArchitecture="AMD64",type="win32",version="1.0.0.0". Definition is WavesQtLibs_5.1.1_Win32_Release,processorArchitecture="x86",type="win32",version="1.0.0.0". Please use sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis.
I don't get this error log on my 32bit Win7 machine. Again, central runs like it should. Another KVR member posted the same error log as I did in that same thread. Maybe Waves should step-up to using at least visual studio 2008 or making an exclusive 64bit version of central? Seems this problem can be easily fixed!
