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ghettosynth wrote:I didn't see them discussed here.
well, how could you when:
ghettosynth's previous post wrote:I'm not going to read this thread

:roll:

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ghettosynth wrote:I don't know if the click issue is still raging.
It isn't. Too little too late, I am afraid. Seems like the majority that have got hands on the unit, don't think it is a problem. Some don't notice them at all and some who notice them doesn't mind and at least one owner think it adds to it's character.

But hey they may just be ignorant idiots, but since they are the ones who is about to use it, ignorance is bliss then. What would your motives be to deny them this?

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My first three recordings with Kylie.

Filter, arp and delay jamming:

https://soundcloud.com/sendy/waftatron-5000

A short improvisation played with one of my own patches:

https://soundcloud.com/sendy/minilogue-continuous-hymn

And the first few patches I created that I liked enough to commit to memory:

https://soundcloud.com/sendy/korg-minil ... ed-patches

Since then I've made about 10 more sounds, with wave modulation, sync, FM, ringmod and pitch modulation of Osc 2, there are a lot of timbral possibilities!
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!

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Daags wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:I didn't see them discussed here.
well, how could you when:
ghettosynth's previous post wrote:I'm not going to read this thread
I read enough of the thread to understand that 1) it's potentially a real issue, and 2) that after some 30+ pages I hadn't seen those ideas discussed.

I posted so that someone might say "oh those are interesting", or, "yes, we discussed them back on page X" and I could avoid reading ten more pages of nonsense.

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As you can see from the user reports, ghettosynth, the clicking issues are not a problem to most if not all users around here, so give it up. If you want to stir the pot, convince us that the praised user demos are one pile of sonically shit. I predict epic failure in such a mission but hey, let's make it an empirical question and see how it plays out. God's speed.

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Sendy wrote: A short improvisation played with one of my own patches:

https://soundcloud.com/sendy/minilogue-continuous-hymn
nice vibes to this one : )

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Sendy wrote:My first three recordings with Kylie.
Sounding good, Sendy!

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JCJR wrote:
Sendy wrote:My first three recordings with Kylie.
Sounding good, Sendy!
Yeah, I liked Waftatron, although, I read it as WaffleTron, it shows off the filter character nicely.

I'm curious, does anyone know anything technical about the filter? The only thing that I got from watching the breakdown video is that there's an LM3900 quad norton amp in the mix.

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Yeah I noticed that too. A blast from the past. Wonder what its used for? In the old days I would make very low parts count voltage controlled LFO's out of (as best I recall) just a 3900 and little else. Pairing two or more of em, cross-modulated for chaotic LFO. Thats about all I recall using a 3900 for. Think it could also be faked into behaving like a VCA. A unique opamp. Single-ended power supply and sorta noisy though. Maybe some of the noise because it was typically used with such big-value resistors.

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JCJR wrote:Yeah I noticed that too. A blast from the past. Wonder what its used for? In the old days I would make very low parts count voltage controlled LFO's out of (as best I recall) just a 3900 and little else. Pairing two or more of em, cross-modulated for chaotic LFO. Thats about all I recall using a 3900 for. Think it could also be faked into behaving like a VCA. A unique opamp. Single-ended power supply and sorta noisy though. Maybe some of the noise because it was typically used with such big-value resistors.
Doh! I don't why this didn't occur to me. I would bet money that it is the filter and that the filter is/is based on the Arp 4072 filter. This would make a lot of sense in terms of the progression of product design.

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Thanks. That sounds very probable, Ghettosynth! It probably wouldn't be rocket surgery to make such a circuit switchable between two and four pole (as in the minilogue). That is a cunning use of a 3900!

What arp synths used the 4072 filter? Back when I used and worked on arp monosynths, Arp was still acting like it was a big secret. The filters were potted in plastic, and on all my old arp service manuals it just showed the filter as a blank square on the schematic with wires connected to it. A true black box. :)

Somehow I got the idea that the 2 pole filter in my old whiteface odyssey was state-variable, but dunno if that was rumor or my own guess or what.

Listening to all the minilogue demos, it doesn't sound like an arp, but I recall thinking it sounds more like an arp than anything else I could recall.

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JCJR wrote:Thanks. That sounds very probable, Ghettosynth! It probably wouldn't be rocket surgery to make such a circuit switchable between two and four pole (as in the minilogue). That is a cunning use of a 3900!

What arp synths used the 4072 filter? Back when I used and worked on arp monosynths, Arp was still acting like it was a big secret. The filters were potted in plastic, and on all my old arp service manuals it just showed the filter as a blank square on the schematic with wires connected to it. A true black box. :)
It's (one of) the 2600 filter(s), but, it could also be the 4075 which was used in the odyssey. They're both based on the LM3900. Incidentally, that's actually the schematic for yusynth's version, but the core of the original is similar.
Somehow I got the idea that the 2 pole filter in my old whiteface odyssey was state-variable, but dunno if that was rumor or my own guess or what.

Listening to all the minilogue demos, it doesn't sound like an arp, but I recall thinking it sounds more like an arp than anything else I could recall.
Yeah, what other poly-arp are you comparing it with? I think that the synth itself might essentially be a modernized poly-odyssey. If we had some high resolution pictures of the board, we could probably start to piece this together a bit.

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When we get more in stock, I'll take detailed pictures.

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ghettosynth wrote:
JCJR wrote:Thanks. That sounds very probable, Ghettosynth! It probably wouldn't be rocket surgery to make such a circuit switchable between two and four pole (as in the minilogue). That is a cunning use of a 3900!

What arp synths used the 4072 filter? Back when I used and worked on arp monosynths, Arp was still acting like it was a big secret. The filters were potted in plastic, and on all my old arp service manuals it just showed the filter as a blank square on the schematic with wires connected to it. A true black box. :)
It's (one of) the 2600 filter(s), but, it could also be the 4075 which was used in the odyssey. They're both based on the LM3900. Incidentally, that's actually the schematic for yusynth's version, but the core of the original is similar.
Somehow I got the idea that the 2 pole filter in my old whiteface odyssey was state-variable, but dunno if that was rumor or my own guess or what.

Listening to all the minilogue demos, it doesn't sound like an arp, but I recall thinking it sounds more like an arp than anything else I could recall.
Yeah, what other poly-arp are you comparing it with? I think that the synth itself might essentially be a modernized poly-odyssey. If we had some high resolution pictures of the board, we could probably start to piece this together a bit.
It is fun hearing you knowledgeable people talking about this stuff :tu:

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ghettosynth wrote:
JCJR wrote:Yeah I noticed that too. A blast from the past. Wonder what its used for? In the old days I would make very low parts count voltage controlled LFO's out of (as best I recall) just a 3900 and little else. Pairing two or more of em, cross-modulated for chaotic LFO. Thats about all I recall using a 3900 for. Think it could also be faked into behaving like a VCA. A unique opamp. Single-ended power supply and sorta noisy though. Maybe some of the noise because it was typically used with such big-value resistors.
Doh! I don't why this didn't occur to me. I would bet money that it is the filter and that the filter is/is based on the Arp 4072 filter. This would make a lot of sense in terms of the progression of product design.
Maybe it is partially based on it (4072 is almost the same as 4075), but in this interview (in Japanese) (translation here), the designer said it sounds completely different from the filter it's partially based on (Odyssey rev. 3 ARP 4075). At least it's obviously true when comparing various recordings.
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