NEW Studio One v3 updates incoming.

[crashedthecar]

If they're serious about the beer they could throw in the beer fridge.

S1 v4 will list the fridge as an external device

Those Germans think of everything

[Orbit-50]

If they're serious about the beer they could throw in the beer fridge.

S1 v4 will list the fridge as an external device

Those Germans think of everything

I think they're serious about this. I say we all head on over to the Presonus forums and call them out on this.

[imprint]

I'd like to see them raise the bar by lowering the complexity of their offers. There are so many versions of S1, and while I can't even fathom how much or little work goes into making all those sandboxes, it seems like a gigantic waste of time to have Prime, Artist, Producer...etc...and some of those even have add-ons. Why make things so complicated for the customer and your support and marketing teams?

The obvious thing here is to point to Logic, and while some may rightfully say "how can you expect PreSonus to compete against Apple's $" the fact is Apple simplified to improve experience by flushing the 'Express' concept and making a single fabulous DAW. Why not give the customers something that...y'know...just works rather than disappoints you by holding features for ransom? Reason's Recycle and MIDI out are similar examples...and Props give up market share because of it.

I have a license for Artist that isn't loaded because PreSonus wants $99 to let me load AU, VST or do Rewire. Why bother auditioning something so intentionally crippled?

So raise the bar by making one great DAW and maybe keep Prime around as sort of a Garage Band. Addition by subtraction. Sell more, police less...

[Uncle E]

I'd like to see them raise the bar by lowering the complexity of their offers. There are so many versions of S1, and while I can't even fathom how much or little work goes into making all those sandboxes, it seems like a gigantic waste of time to have Prime, Artist, Producer...etc...and some of those even have add-ons. Why make things so complicated for the customer and your support and marketing teams?

Presonus gives Artist away with their interfaces. In this way, it serves as a value-add product, which wouldn't work with Prime. At the same time, if they gave away Professional, they'd have to raise the prices of the interfaces themselves, so this wouldn't work.

There are exactly as many paid versions of Studio One as Reason. There more paid versions of Sonar, Pro Tools, Ableton, and Cubase.

[auricle]

Personally, I hope they expand the tagging features of the browser to allow users to tag their own loops and presets. I'd be a happy bunny with that

[bungle]

if they gave away Professional, they'd have to raise the prices of the interfaces themselves, so this wouldn't work.

This is your assumption, nothing else, nobody here knows how much they spend on development of the software vs what they are willing to write off in terms of inclusions for their hardware, this would never be discussed outside of Presonus itself.

[fedexnman]

if they gave away Professional, they'd have to raise the prices of the interfaces themselves, so this wouldn't work.

This is your assumption, nothing else, nobody here knows how much they spend on development of the software vs what they are willing to write off in terms of inclusions for their hardware, this would never be discussed outside of Presonus itself.

They could also give away StudioOneVersion1Producer with there interfaces too ??? They are on like V3 now .... I tend to agree about the 2 many versions and add-ons reply.

[crashedthecar]

If they're serious about the beer they could throw in the beer fridge.

S1 v4 will list the fridge as an external device

Those Germans think of everything

I think they're serious about this. I say we all head on over to the Presonus forums and call them out on this.

damn straight !
Ima gonna do that right now

Man , if only I could see their faces

[Uncle E]

This is your assumption, nothing else, nobody here knows how much they spend on development of the software vs what they are willing to write off in terms of inclusions for their hardware, this would never be discussed outside of Presonus itself.

Think about it, most of their interfaces sell for less than Studio One Professional, they would be destroying their own market if they were to include it free with them. It's simple marketing, it has nothing to do development costs.

[Uncle E]

They could also give away StudioOneVersion1Producer with there interfaces too ???

They could but wouldn't that confuse things even more, especially considering they're no longer updating Producer?

They are on like V3 now .... I tend to agree about the 2 many versions and add-ons reply.

Professional does everything.
Artist is a stripped down version that allows people to add features at their own pace.
Prime is a non-expiring demo version.

Anyway, I'm merely trying to point out that there are fewer different versions of Studio One than just about any DAW outside of Logic. Even Reason, which was brought up as being an exemplary example of how many versions there ought to be, has exactly the same number of paid versions as Studio One.

[olepro]

Maybe they have bought Alchemy from Apple, and included it in the new upgrade

[fedexnman]

It's all good .

[redsunmuzik]

I think they developed android and windows versions for their S1 controll application.

[LawrenceF]

Prime is a non-expiring demo version.

Prime isn't a demo. It's literally a free product. There's nothing in Prime that you can demo and then pay for later.

[LawrenceF]

I'd like to see them raise the bar by lowering the complexity of their offers. There are so many versions of S1, and while I can't even fathom how much or little work goes into making all those sandboxes, it seems like a gigantic waste of time to have Prime, Artist, Producer...etc...and some of those even have add-ons.

Not really. There's only one software product being developed afaict. What you see is things being on or off based on the license. Everyone who has it has the exact same software, it's the license that determines what features show up when you launch it, but it's all there. It also has no patches or anything else for updates and upgrades.

It's quite literally (platform dependent and x68/x64) all the same software. You can turn Prime into Pro (and vice versa) without installing anything but a new license file and re-launching it.