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werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:24 am

Finally scored ten minutes with a minilogue. The crappy keyboard was a huge turn off. Came home with an Arturia Minibrute SE to go alongside the Microbrute.
Roll on MatrixBrute release. Hopes to god it has a proper keybed.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:15 pm

werp wrote:Finally scored ten minutes with a minilogue. The crappy keyboard was a huge turn off. Came home with an Arturia Minibrute SE to go alongside the Microbrute.
Roll on MatrixBrute release. Hopes to god it has a proper keybed.

a huge turn off ? .... don't you already have some fancy keyboards ? have you got something against using them to send midi to something like the minilogue ?

i'd have thought anyone who is series about keys would have a master keyboard in the studio anyways. ymmv.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:32 pm

Mutant wrote:

nice sounds on this one, and good examples of the four motion sequences as independent (of notes) modulation sources

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:01 pm

Daags wrote:i'd have thought anyone who is series about keys would have a master keyboard in the studio anyways.

True but this has been an ongoing complaint since the MS-20 Mini and ARP Odyssey. I assume that the keyboard is better received in Japan.

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:55 am

here it explains well the envelope & click issue.
http://www.matrixsynth.com/2016/02/anal ... logue.html
it's actually even more noticeable on sounds with slow attack and long releases. so nothing to do with envelopes being fast.
if the envelopes are digital they should be able to fix this, if not it will remain as a flow in an otherwise great little synth. time for korg to at least make a comment.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:13 am

I had similiar issue with filter in my Supersaw synth - the first VST I ever made. But seriously, guys at Korg should know how to handle that

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:39 am

olikana wrote:here it explains well the envelope & click issue.
http://www.matrixsynth.com/2016/02/anal ... logue.html

no it doesn't. as far as the video goes, he's bemoaning the behaviour of the envelope in mono mode ... that it re-triggers the attack phase of the envelope from the beginning, rather than continuing from where the envelope last was. naturally this behaviour will give rise to a blip or two ... barely audible once or possibly twice in the video ... and any other analogue whose envelope would behave in the same way would blip, occasionally, as it did.

there was some references to moog gear in the attached text, but they should keep in mind that moog have their own way of dealing with envelopes which does not make it a good control subject for some 'tests'.

also, he compares a polyphonic (minilogue) synth to a mono (sh-101) ... sure, the minilogue is in mono mode...but one must consider that the envelope behaviour assigned to the minilogues monomode may actually be desireable .... certainly not with the pad like settings used in the clip (how often you will dial in pad sounds on a mono ? ymmv), but with short attack and release settings it is probably ideal...or at least more often preferable than the alternative .... call it an executive decision. so if you want to dial in pad like settings on the minilogue, go ahead and use one of the poly modes ffs ?

ultimately - no, this video doesn't prove shit re: the so called 'ubiquitous' click issue that the dweeb with the jupiters, tridents, memorymoogs and racks of mother 32's was complaining about a month ago. i also find it hard to take them seriously when the don't acknowledge pertinent disparaities in their little demo videos... like unusual patch settings for mono .... or comparing the mono-mode of a polyphonic synth vs a dedicated mono synth.

that said, I of course wouldn't complain if korg added more mono modes somehow (without sacrificing other voice modes). why would i complain about more possibilities. but considering it's a poly synth primarily, and they have to make some kind of executive decision about how the mono mode(s?) operate - then so be it, I think they probably made the right decision considering it's suitable for the most likely type of mono patches...

imo, ymmv, god bless america.

werp · Post by **werp** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:46 am

Daags wrote:
werp wrote:Finally scored ten minutes with a minilogue. The crappy keyboard was a huge turn off. Came home with an Arturia Minibrute SE to go alongside the Microbrute.
Roll on MatrixBrute release. Hopes to god it has a proper keybed.

a huge turn off ? .... don't you already have some fancy keyboards ? have you got something against using them to send midi to something like the minilogue ?

i'd have thought anyone who is series about keys would have a master keyboard in the studio anyways. ymmv.

I really don't want a useless keyboard taking up valuable space..I'm currently using the Kontrol S 61. And I'm unable to focus visually on a synth whose controls are an extra keyboard distance away. If this thing was available in module format, I could sit it ontop of the 61 like I do with my Pulse 2 and Ambika module. The korg thing simply won't fit between the main keyboard and computer screen (that also needs to be where I can focus on it)

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:47 pm

We have 2 Minilogue's in stock:

www.jrrshop.com/korg-minilogue

If you want to order it, make sure it still says "Usually ships immediately." If it says "Ships in 1-2 weeks", some other people probably already bought them.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:20 am

Uncle E wrote:We have 2 Minilogue's in stock:

http://www.jrrshop.com/korg-minilogue

If you want to order it, make sure it still says "Usually ships immediately." If it says "Ships in 1-2 weeks", some other people probably already bought them.

Ordered! Now I just have to cancel the one I have on backorder from another store...

duncanm · Post by **duncanm** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:00 am

Good review here - https://www.attackmagazine.com/reviews/ ... minilogue/

Some will no doubt dismiss the Minilogue on the basis of the mini keys alone, but you’d be foolish to do so; I’ve got big hands, but the keyboard still feels perfectly acceptable to me.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:25 am

duncanm wrote:Good review here - https://www.attackmagazine.com/reviews/ ... minilogue/

Some will no doubt dismiss the Minilogue on the basis of the mini keys alone, but you’d be foolish to do so; I’ve got big hands, but the keyboard still feels perfectly acceptable to me.

I got a message from my shop that i would receive my Minilogue in about 2. weeks.
A few hours later i got the message that it had arrived

I have big hands and the keyboard is actually nice to play on compared to my reface CS keys.

To get rid of the clicking sound i set attack and release to 29 and it's gone without loosing any punch in the sound.

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:29 am

you can't get rid of the clicks caused by the release being abruptly chopped off by the following note trigger.
it will happen even on sounds with slow attack and long releases if you play a few notes in quick succession.
if the envelopes are digital it should be easily fixable in an update.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:22 pm

Ok. Never tested it that way, sounds just like the sidechain mode that is made to do cut off the last note.
Hope they can fix it and that it's not some analog gate thing going on.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:27 pm

it is likely intentional. so not so much a 'fix' is needed, but rather a 'change' ...or the addition of more mono-modes.

in practise, how likely are you to use those type of pad like settings in monomode on a polysynth ? I suppose the designer thought the answer to that question is 'not so much'

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