Korg Minilogue

[deastman]

I really don't get why there is even any argument or debate over this topic. First of all, the click problem is real and it's annoying. All you need to do is pull up preset 02, a basic string synth patch. That patch is basically unusable due to clicks, and it is right at the top of the list. At the same time, the synth as a whole sounds fantastic and is a ton of fun for relatively money. I don't see why both of these truths can't coexist.

[Mutant]

I really don't get why there is even any argument or debate over this topic. First of all, the click problem is real and it's annoying. All you need to do is pull up preset 02, a basic string synth patch. That patch is basically unusable due to clicks, and it is right at the top of the list.

I understand you have the synth.
Can you please end this madness here once and forever by telling us at what exact filter frequency and attack values (in 0-1023 or better in miliseconds) the click is audible ?
Some people say "above 20% attack and 20% release to get rid of it", some say "attack between 65 and 72" (which is more like 6-7% if the highest value is 1023) and i think i remember reading something like "filter frequency knob below half is clicky".

At the same time, the synth as a whole sounds fantastic and is a ton of fun for relatively money. I don't see why both of these truths can't coexist.

Yes, some of the fully produced song videos had very nice sounds, especially the one with space travel theme - it had some clicks too btw but in that context i could get over them.

[deastman]

I really don't get why there is even any argument or debate over this topic. First of all, the click problem is real and it's annoying. All you need to do is pull up preset 02, a basic string synth patch. That patch is basically unusable due to clicks, and it is right at the top of the list.

I understand you have the synth.
Can you please end this madness here once and forever by telling us at what exact filter frequency and attack values (in 0-1023 or better in miliseconds) the click is audible ?
Some people say "above 20% attack and 20% release to get rid of it", some say "attack between 65 and 72" (which is more like 6-7% if the highest value is 1023) and i think i remember reading something like "filter frequency knob below half is clicky".

At the same time, the synth as a whole sounds fantastic and is a ton of fun for relatively money. I don't see why both of these truths can't coexist.

Yes, some of the fully produced song videos had very nice sounds, especially the one with space travel theme - it had some clicks too btw but in that tcontext i could get over them.

I've been busy and barely had half an hour with the synth so far. I'll try to narrow down the click tonight if I have time. I noticed there is a new Automatic Gainsay video on the click... Maybe that will shed some light on it.

[ghettosynth]

I really don't get why there is even any argument or debate over this topic. First of all, the click problem is real and it's annoying. All you need to do is pull up preset 02, a basic string synth patch. That patch is basically unusable due to clicks, and it is right at the top of the list. At the same time, the synth as a whole sounds fantastic and is a ton of fun for relatively money. I don't see why both of these truths can't coexist.

I agree, I have no idea why people are so offended by talking about the click. It's clearly a problem and yet, otherwise, the synth sounds great and is a great value.

To me, what is interesting to confirm is the exact cause of the click. If it is, as people believe now, a software problem, then an update to the OS could fix that problem. On the other hand, if it turns out to be a hardware flaw, then an update may not be able to fix it and changes might have to be made to the design. Of course there could be more than one cause.

[IncarnateX]

I agree, I have no idea why people are so offended by talking about the click.

Could it be the patronizing ways in which you non-owners introduce yourself as experts on the topic insisting that it is a "problem" and not just an "issue" to be discussed? Hmm...hmm...hmm?

Whether a design issue is a "problem" is not really for you say because that is in the eyes of the beholder.

Wiser choises of self introductions and "technical" terms would really help your cause.

[deastman]

I agree, I have no idea why people are so offended by talking about the click.

Could it be the patronizing ways in which you non-owners introduce yourself as experts on the topic insisting that it is a "problem" and not just an "issue" to be discussed? Hmm...hmm...hmm?

Whether a design issue is a "problem" is not really for you say because that is in the eyes of the beholder.

Wiser choises of self introductions and "technical" terms would really help your cause.

I think it should be considered a problem when preset 02, a string pad, is basically unusable due to clicking.

[stillshaded]

OMG ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT CLICKING.


I borrowed my buddy's and made a handful of excellent patches and while I acknowledge the existence of the clicking it accounts for 1% of the character of the synth.


CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE..

the filters, The oscillator shape parameters, the modulation options, the sequencer, the voice modes, the midi implementation, the build quality, the oscilloscope, the patches people have made, ANYTHING

I get it IT f**king CLICKS..

there are two potential outcomes:

1. Korg fixes it

2. Korg doesn't fix it



Can we go on with our lives regardless of the outcome.

Holy hell... Internet people smdh

[IncarnateX]

I agree, I have no idea why people are so offended by talking about the click.

Could it be the patronizing ways in which you non-owners introduce yourself as experts on the topic insisting that it is a "problem" and not just an "issue" to be discussed? Hmm...hmm...hmm?

Whether a design issue is a "problem" is not really for you say because that is in the eyes of the beholder.

Wiser choises of self introductions and "technical" terms would really help your cause.

I think it should be considered a problem when preset 02, a string pad, is basically unusable due to clicking.

Yes to people to whom preset 02 is a crucial reason for buying the synth. I will probably overwrite this preset with something else if it is as bad as you suggest. I have synths enough for string pads. That would never be my reason to buy a 4 polyphonic analog synth. As said; it is in the eyes of the beholder. Shouldn't be that hard to understand.

[DJ Warmonger]

Just let the people talk about what they want and what they find interesting. Apparently there were enough posts and videos about how awesome Minilogue is, the only questionable issue is the clicking.

[deastman]

And I repeat: this is an awesome synth! When I first saw it announced, my initial reaction was meh... I already have better analog polysynths. But this thing is deceptively flexible, which I attribute largely to the oscillator section. The addition of waveshaping, crossmod, oscillator sync, and ringmod collectively take this thing to another realm of possibilities. Plus step sequencing of parameters, and that grungy digital delay which I loved in the Volca keys and I still love here. Click or no click, this is a great little synth!

[duncanm]

I really don't get why there is even any argument or debate over this topic. First of all, the click problem is real and it's annoying. All you need to do is pull up preset 02, a basic string synth patch. That patch is basically unusable due to clicks, and it is right at the top of the list. At the same time, the synth as a whole sounds fantastic and is a ton of fun for relatively money. I don't see why both of these truths can't coexist.

I agree, I have no idea why people are so offended by talking about the click. It's clearly a problem and yet, otherwise, the synth sounds great and is a great value.

To me, what is interesting to confirm is the exact cause of the click. If it is, as people believe now, a software problem, then an update to the OS could fix that problem. On the other hand, if it turns out to be a hardware flaw, then an update may not be able to fix it and changes might have to be made to the design. Of course there could be more than one cause.

I think it's less being offended and more being tired of someone bringing it up as if anyone cares that they're not going to buy it because this glaring flaw their synth expert ears have discovered. Just go buy that other analogue synth that doesn't do this. It's had almost unanimous praise from everyone so if it has a 'flaw' most people don't care.

This isn't a case of anyone being that boy in the story of the emperor's new clothes; it's just pettiness at this point.

[Mutant]

It's had almost unanimous praise from everyone so if it has a 'flaw' most people don't care.

There are 2 kinds of people here:
1. Will happily eat a big ripe beautiful red apple with a caterpillar inside, some not even noticing the caterpillar, some simply ignoring it because the apple is so tasty, some even praising it for increased protein content.
2. Will ask the waiter to replace the big ripe beautiful red apple with another big ripe beautiful red apple without the caterpillar, or at least to cut out the area occupied by the caterpillar - if that doesn't happen, they will refuse to eat and pay for the apple.


Forgot about the 3rd kind...
3. Will become very aggressive if you mention the caterpillar.

[ghettosynth]

It's had almost unanimous praise from everyone so if it has a 'flaw' most people don't care.

There are 2 kinds of people here:

This entire conversation about who will buy it and who won't and who owns it and who doesn't just seems laughably high school to me. None of this silliness is ever a consideration for whether I will participate, or not, in a conversation. As long as their are doubts about the origins of the click and any potential resolution, then it is an interesting technical point about a new product, full stop.

If they were easily available I'd just go buy one for a weekend and stick my scope probe in there. I'm amazed that hasn't been done by someone.

[IncarnateX]

There are 2 kinds of people here:
1. Will happily eat a big ripe beautiful red apple with a caterpillar inside, some not even noticing the caterpillar, some simply ignoring it because the apple is so tasty, some even praising it for increased protein content.
2. Will ask the waiter to replace the big ripe beautiful red apple with another big ripe beautiful red apple without the caterpillar, or at least to cut out the area occupied by the caterpillar - if that doesn't happen, they will refuse to eat and pay for the apple.

Forgot about the 3rd kind...
3. Will become very aggressive if you mention the caterpillar.

And the fourth kind:

4. People who pretend to speak for 2. But really just want to arrogantly show off their GREAT knowledge about caterpillars to compensate for feelings of being nobodies with no significance to anybody anywhere anytime ever.

[ghettosynth]

I really don't get why there is even any argument or debate over this topic. First of all, the click problem is real and it's annoying. All you need to do is pull up preset 02, a basic string synth patch. That patch is basically unusable due to clicks, and it is right at the top of the list. At the same time, the synth as a whole sounds fantastic and is a ton of fun for relatively money. I don't see why both of these truths can't coexist.

I agree, I have no idea why people are so offended by talking about the click. It's clearly a problem and yet, otherwise, the synth sounds great and is a great value.

To me, what is interesting to confirm is the exact cause of the click. If it is, as people believe now, a software problem, then an update to the OS could fix that problem. On the other hand, if it turns out to be a hardware flaw, then an update may not be able to fix it and changes might have to be made to the design. Of course there could be more than one cause.

I think it's less being offended and more being tired of someone bringing it up as if anyone cares that they're not going to buy it because this glaring flaw their synth expert ears have discovered. Just go buy that other analogue synth that doesn't do this. It's had almost unanimous praise from everyone so if it has a 'flaw' most people don't care.

This isn't a case of anyone being that boy in the story of the emperor's new clothes; it's just pettiness at this point.

I'm not sure who you think is being petty? Those of us talking about the click are talking about it from a technical point of view becasue it's interesting. Technical details of a synth are always interesting to me.

Those details are also interesting to potential new customers, but, if you own it already, you've already decided to live with it. Consequently, why are those customers so hell bent on trying to derail conversation that is less relevant to them?

I'm always amazed at how much energy fanbois expend trying to stop others from talking about flaws in their precious. Or frankly, how they can expend so much energy saying nothing of substance about their precious.