KVR Audio

the3ug3reeder · Post by **the3ug3reeder** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:22 pm

i actually like using it as a standalone and also as a VST and see benefits on both sides.

Sound Author · Post by **Sound Author** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:44 pm

I'm a laptop user and while I have a nice big monitor I can always plug into, squeezing Falcon into a DAW on a 1366x768 laptop screen is a bit of a tight squeeze. I'm an odd duck as a sound designer. I hate being handcuffed to a desk, so I often work on the laptop in the kitchen or sit on my bed designing presets while I binge watch Netflix. It's just the way I work.

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:48 pm

A few interesting articles on Falcon over at Soundbytes magazine:

http://soundbytesmag.net/falconbyuvipart1/

http://soundbytesmag.net/review-falcon-by-uvi-part-2/

http://soundbytesmag.net/falcon-synth-o ... e-up-look/

http://soundbytesmag.net/microtonality-in-falcon/

the3ug3reeder · Post by **the3ug3reeder** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:10 am

thanks erik!
i find the one about microtonality particularly interesting...
i'm currently reading part 1 of Musimathics and there's alot of background on scales. a very interesting read:
http://www.musimathics.com/

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:55 pm

Indeed. The other articles are more for novice users and people who mjight eventually be interested, gbut the article on microtonality is extremely interesting. I assumed that the 20th C opened the Western world upto microtonality bit it seems that I was wrong:

Being a fan of Ligeti and of spectralism ( Grisey, Murail, Haas etc) this was one of my main reasons to get Falcon. The others being Ircam and the way it was conceived (to me, this is the most logically organised vst I know. It's huge, but never confusing.)

voon · Post by **voon** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:38 pm

Hm ... do others have weird CPU Bugs with Falcon? An example would be the very first arpeggiated instrument in the Falcon standard library. Plays ... goes to 20 .. sometimes 30ish% ... all fine .. then suddenly BAM up to 100% and stuttering madly.

This on a state of the Art desktop PC (16 GB DDR4 Ram, only very fast SSDs, i7-6700k CPU at 4 GHz etc .. nothing is slow in this PC).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:08 pm

Falcon doesn't support multicore processing, so it is very possible to take up an entire core all by itself, especially with more complex patches.

I see the same behaviour on my i5 - 32% CPU for that ARP Voyage patch. It's not a bug - it's how Falcon can be.

@otristan - interestingly, in that ARP Voyage patch, I get hung notes. Looks like Chorder script in layer 2 is the culprit - as soon as I bypass it, notes are released properly. Something to look out and fix, perhaps?

voon · Post by **voon** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:49 pm

Oh I don't mind the 30% cpu usage. But suddenly jumping to 100% and locking up is not normal.

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:16 pm

Did you try DPC Latency Checker?

TrekStar · Post by **TrekStar** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:27 pm

voon wrote:Hm ... do others have weird CPU Bugs with Falcon? An example would be the very first arpeggiated instrument in the Falcon standard library. Plays ... goes to 20 .. sometimes 30ish% ... all fine .. then suddenly BAM up to 100% and stuttering madly.

This on a state of the Art desktop PC (16 GB DDR4 Ram, only very fast SSDs, i7-6700k CPU at 4 GHz etc .. nothing is slow in this PC).

the same here. unfortunately the Company does not Signal the will to improve the cpu inefficiency...

Sound Author · Post by **Sound Author** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:47 pm

I'm sure this question has been asked like a bazillion times already, but why is there still no demo version? Does it have something to do with the licensing system? I was just talking to a good friend of mine who is interested in purchasing Falcon, but without being able to give it a spin, he feels uncomfortable spending a substantial amount of money on a plugin he has very little way of knowing he will enjoy using. I can't see how this isn't hurting UVI. Is there a demo coming at all in the foreseeable future?

voon · Post by **voon** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:09 am

Btw, something I noticed: At least on my Win10 with my Roland UE55 Quadcapture ASIO device, Falcon Standalone has some issues. It will often fail to start and crash related to ASIO. Also, it often causes stutter and crackle (not CPU related).

If I use a decent VST host like Cantabile 3 and Falcon as a VST plugin, these issues seem to vanish. So I assume something is wrong with the Falcon Standalone shell and ASIO.

(This isn't related to the weird CPU spikes I get with sound slike APR Voyage)

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:07 pm

Hey Voon, I'm interested.

I have a Roland (Edirol) UA-25EX and up to now I only have cracles etc when I use the intensive stuff like the Ircams, and this whilst playing chords of, say, 4 notes.
So yes: I am interested in comparing. Did you use factory presets, or can you eventually give more details on that crashing/ cracling problem in standalone? The better we can pinpoint the problem, the easier it may become to solve.

My experience is that the less my machine uses, the better Falcon's heavy gear works. (disconnect Internet and all that runs in the background and is not absolutely necessary.)

As I am about to change my audio interface (the UA-25EX uses weird latency time settings like 288 etc, and is really getting too old: the latest Win7 drivers, date from, yes, 2009) the UA-55 and the Steinberg UR-22MkII are the main candidates.

So if you have problems that may either be caused by Falcon, Win10 or perhaps UA-55 driver related, I'd like to test things out here on Win7.

voon · Post by **voon** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:15 pm

@ErikH

Yours may be CPU related. Falcon has a simple CPU meter at its bottom, better use Windows Ressource Monitor or so. That is the stuttering etc I get when I play "ARP Voyage" for instance for a while, as in the posting I made before. It will sit around 25-30% CPU ... but then suddenly jumps to an insane 100% - which will cause dropouts etc in audio. Of course if you run other things that use up CPU etc, you'll end up in the 100% quicker.

The Roland UA55 issues seems to be more related with the ASIO interface between the driver and Falcon Standalone, as I currenlty seem not to see the same issue with other hosts ... but I have to check more, I'm not very statistical atm. I do not have any latency issues or stuttering playing other, somewhat simpler synths (I assume) ... like Dune 2 etc, which work flawlessly. The UA55 is fast and I have no big issues so far.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:18 pm

Anyone tried the new Falcon synth library? Any good?

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