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TheoM wrote:Then again what is the point of the question tooneba? It's pointLESS.
I'm just playing the devi's advocate. On top of that, I don't know about it so I asked.

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bungle wrote:Not entirely sure what fantasy land some of these people live in, I use WIndows Linux and OSX, and there is no damn way that any is any better than any of the others overall, if you have convinced yourself of that it is because you are completely blinkered and have literally no idea what you are talking about, this idea that OSX is sooooo much better than Windows is so laughable it is unbelievable.
Yep, it is so childish. Use whatever you want and dont tell others what they use is shit.
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.

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bungle wrote:Not entirely sure what fantasy land some of these people live in, I use WIndows Linux and OSX, and there is no damn way that any is any better than any of the others overall, if you have convinced yourself of that it is because you are completely blinkered and have literally no idea what you are talking about, this idea that OSX is sooooo much better than Windows is so laughable it is unbelievable.
Who actually ever says that?
The occasional 12 year old?

My personal gripes are with Windows, not with how well or badly certain audio software is supposed to run on it. I doubt there's any real difference at all between the two. I just very much dislike Windows.
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No virus here too since 2008 Theo. I use Nod Antivir and only online with my DAW on secure sites when needed to download music software related stuff like updates. :)
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.

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TheoM wrote:BTW, it's been blissful not seeing a single virus issue since 2008 :)
(when i went to mac full time).
'Analysis by Symantec has confirmed that the proof-of-concept (PoC) threat known as Mabouia works as described and could be used to create functional OS X crypto ransomware if it fell into the wrong hands.'

http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/p ... ransomware

'The first known ransomware attack on Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) Mac computers, which was discovered over the weekend, was downloaded more than 6,000 times before the threat was contained, according to a developer whose product was tainted with the malicious software.'

Article points out that theres a lot less attacks on mac than pc, but goes on to say:

'Still, cyber security experts said they expect to see more attacks on Macs as the KeRanger hackers and other groups look for new ways to infect Mac computers.

Symantec, which sells anti-virus software for Macs, warned on its blog that "Mac users should not be complacent." The post offered tips on protecting against ransomware.'

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple ... SKCN0W80VX

Try to keep in mind that your mac isnt infallible, it may just help you notice if you get infected.

Back on topic, IMO it started going downhill sometime between v7-9.
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An antivirus software company recommends you use antivirus software? I never saw that coming.

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That Mac has been spared so far is solely because no one is using Mac except some annoying hipsters and people with too much money who want to show off. It has nothing to do with architectural security (eg that Macs are inherently more secure) but a simple cost-benefits analysis shows that it's just better to develop malware for a platform the majority is using (eg PC/Windows).

And yes, there's been a steady increase of malware for Mac in recent years so anti-virus is a must even on a Mac.
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The best Mac is a BigMac...but seriously, I must admit that Mac has been great and is great for Picture and photo editing. It is a favourite among architects and people working with any kind of design. But Mac did not have that kind of success in the Music business. They tried and are still trying. Logic is good, no doubt but Apple are trying to buy their way in. Look at Camel Audio and Alchemy for example. It's not their own coding and some times I wonder if Apple really have their heart in the Music business. I know millions of people will disagree (..and especially all Apple fanboys) but it's a fact that Apple and Mac is not the best choice for Music making, at least not yet. I Believe that's why many some companies did not develop the plugins for OSX/AU. Many also develop for Windows first because it's a bigger market, and I guess Image Line is a good example of that.
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robotmonkey wrote:That Mac has been spared so far is solely because no one is using Mac except some annoying hipsters and people with too much money who want to show off.
And you are what they call call in urban jargon, a "f**king idiot"
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robotmonkey wrote:That Mac has been spared so far is solely because no one is using Mac except some annoying hipsters and people with too much money who want to show off. It has nothing to do with architectural security (eg that Macs are inherently more secure) but a simple cost-benefits analysis shows that it's just better to develop malware for a platform the majority is using (eg PC/Windows).

And yes, there's been a steady increase of malware for Mac in recent years so anti-virus is a must even on a Mac.
Have you ever noticed that Mac users tend to attack the OS itself and Windows users tends to attack the users?

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masterhiggins wrote: Have you ever noticed that Mac users tend to attack the OS itself and Windows users tends to attack the users?
I have, and can't say I dissapprove. :hihi: Nothing surprising there really as Apple fanboys do seem to make a rather coherent social formation, and belong to either one or both of the groups mentioned above. Mac users just are so attackable.
It's also quite logical as objectively there's very few reasonable arguments to be made for preferring expensive Apple products to PC. Most of the arguments and myths still put forward today are from the 1990's when there indeed was some truth to them. So as Apple fanboys behaviour seems irrational they deserve to be made fun of. After all, you would not start to argue with a Mormon or Jehowa's witness about whose Bible is better, nope, you make fun of them.
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masterhiggins wrote:An antivirus software company recommends you use antivirus software? I never saw that coming.
Actually they recommend you dont be complacent, and give you manual steps to determine if youve got the crap on your system, which you can do without purchase of their software.
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robotmonkey wrote:That Mac has been spared so far is solely because no one is using Mac except some annoying hipsters and people with too much money who want to show off. It has nothing to do with architectural security (eg that Macs are inherently more secure) but a simple cost-benefits analysis shows that it's just better to develop malware for a platform the majority is using (eg PC/Windows).

And yes, there's been a steady increase of malware for Mac in recent years so anti-virus is a must even on a Mac.
I'm confused...

"Mac has been spared so far..." vs. "... steady increase of malware for mac...anti-virus is a must even on a Mac"

"...no one is using mac..." vs. The second most profitable company in the world (up until recently #1)

I don't have the time or energy to argue back and forth, but I respectfully disagree to everything you've written here.

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ATN69 wrote:But Mac did not have that kind of success in the Music business.
Yeah, it's rare to find Mac running Pro Tools in professional studios and yet to find a Macbook on stage. :lol:
but it's a fact that Apple and Mac is not the best choice for Music making, at least not yet.
Now it's not, once it was actually, if anything, you can speak about how Mac's are past their prime now with growing generations of mostly EDM bedroom hobbyist's, but saying Mac's are irrelevant in music industry is just mind blowing :lol:
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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