StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine (v1.6 Released + Flash sales)

[SLiC]

I have bought a licence and think STiX is about the best/easiest to use fully programmable analogue drum machine I have used...certainly easier than Tremor (which I also own). Some really unique workflow tools ability to make organic (off the grid) beats that self modulate for (subtle or extreme) variety. Its really powerful, I think it seems deceptively simple for the power under the hood....but then I'm in to modular hardware so most things seem simple after that

Looking forward to the V1 release, - get in FAST people, no brainer if you like analogue style drum machines

[Daags]

[Muziksculp]

I have bought a licence and think STiX is about the best/easiest to use fully programmable analogue drum machine I have used...certainly easier than Tremor (which I also own). Some really unique workflow tools ability to make organic (off the grid) beats that self modulate for (subtle or extreme) variety. Its really powerful, I think it seems deceptively simple for the power under the hood....but then I'm in to modular hardware so most things seem simple after that

Looking forward to the V1 release, - get in FAST people, no brainer if you like analogue style drum machines

Reading your post is generating a lot of GAS for buying STiX. I also have Tremor, do you think STix is much faster, and easier to program custom Analog Sounding Kits with, and has a better/faster workflow to program beats with than Tremor ?

When is STix officially going to be released ?

Thanks,
Muziksculp

[Lotuzia]

I don't think ANY GUI will ever please EVERYBODY. And it's allright like this. Diversity is good.

don't confuse Aesthetics with Usability ... while there may be some overlap between these two concepts in the 'interface' venn diagram, they are not the same thing. which is what plexuss is trying to explain to you (well, he's talking specifically about usability and he's right about everything he says. plus he has paid for a license, so I suggest you listen to him).

stix sounds great, as is to be expected from Xavier. but its scoring very low on usability for me. progamming patterns on this thing is tedious. I kept saying to myself 'this thing should be called SuX' while using it. I own everything else Xils-Lab make btw, but I won't be adding StiX to the collection.

some guy suggested earlier in the thread that he wanted the ability to be able to 'paint' notes, and you shot him down.... hehe, with that kind of inflexibility on good Feature Requests you certainly don't inspire me to make a pre-release purchase in 'good faith' of smart development.

I'm passing on this one, unless usability improves and you implement user feature requests, I suspect this could be Xils-Labs biggest turkey - especially at the official price. drum machine plugins need a heavier focus on usability than maybe any other plugin type, when you consider that programming drum patterns will be the most frequent thing a person will do with it.

i'll keep an eye on development, though i'm not expecting much flexibility from you Lotuzia. which is a pity, as I feel Xavier's talent is being filtered through you on this one.

You assume a lot of things. So, first, I did not shot the guy down, I said that due to the current structure it was -nearly- impossible to implement. At Xils, they think the same. So it's totally different from what you say, and well, that's it. Then we have listened to a lot to users suggestions and requests, and one of the last posts just proves that ( adding arrows to browse drumkits presets). The current state of Stix, compared to the first bgeat, also demonstrates that, and the people concerned know it too. Then, I've never seen a plug in where a company has implemented every request made by users, maybe you can point me to one . I dont want to see one btw, it would probably look like a convoluted gas factory. Or to be more precise, simply look like nothing. Then, if you refer to my early posts, I created StiX. And Xils was interested into making it real. And that's all. Last things : It seems it sells very well, and I can program patterns on it at the speed of light. I'm sorry to hear that you can't. Many other drum machines use the xox paradigm btw, sf or hw. StiX is just more complete. As for the final price, I'm not really involved into that factor, but I've seen a lot of drum machines that have a similar price (not judging myself if they're worth it more/less than StiX, but similar price range). I personnaly think that at the beta campaign price, it's a real bargain. Ymmv.

[Lotuzia]

I have bought a licence and think STiX is about the best/easiest to use fully programmable analogue drum machine I have used...certainly easier than Tremor (which I also own). Some really unique workflow tools ability to make organic (off the grid) beats that self modulate for (subtle or extreme) variety. Its really powerful, I think it seems deceptively simple for the power under the hood....but then I'm in to modular hardware so most things seem simple after that

Looking forward to the V1 release, - get in FAST people, no brainer if you like analogue style drum machines

Simply .....

Glad you enjoy it.

[Lotuzia]

I have bought a licence and think STiX is about the best/easiest to use fully programmable analogue drum machine I have used...certainly easier than Tremor (which I also own). Some really unique workflow tools ability to make organic (off the grid) beats that self modulate for (subtle or extreme) variety. Its really powerful, I think it seems deceptively simple for the power under the hood....but then I'm in to modular hardware so most things seem simple after that

Looking forward to the V1 release, - get in FAST people, no brainer if you like analogue style drum machines

Reading your post is generating a lot of GAS for buying STiX. I also have Tremor, do you think STix is much faster, and easier to program custom Analog Sounding Kits with, and has a better/faster workflow to program beats with than Tremor ?

When is STix officially going to be released ?

Thanks,
Muziksculp

StiX v1.0 will be released in 2/5 days max. We're currently integrating the last presets, I've just finished to rewrite/complete the manual, and you can watch the overview video somehere in the last posts ( or in the 2nd post of this thread, where you can listen to a lot of audio demos too )

[wald]

I don't think ANY GUI will ever please EVERYBODY. And it's allright like this. Diversity is good.

don't confuse Aesthetics with Usability ... while there may be some overlap between these two concepts in the 'interface' venn diagram, they are not the same thing. which is what plexuss is trying to explain to you (well, he's talking specifically about usability and he's right about everything he says. plus he has paid for a license, so I suggest you listen to him).

stix sounds great, as is to be expected from Xavier. but its scoring very low on usability for me. progamming patterns on this thing is tedious. I kept saying to myself 'this thing should be called SuX' while using it. I own everything else Xils-Lab make btw, but I won't be adding StiX to the collection.

some guy suggested earlier in the thread that he wanted the ability to be able to 'paint' notes, and you shot him down.... hehe, with that kind of inflexibility on good Feature Requests you certainly don't inspire me to make a pre-release purchase in 'good faith' of smart development.

I'm passing on this one, unless usability improves and you implement user feature requests, I suspect this could be Xils-Labs biggest turkey - especially at the official price. drum machine plugins need a heavier focus on usability than maybe any other plugin type, when you consider that programming drum patterns will be the most frequent thing a person will do with it.

i'll keep an eye on development, though i'm not expecting much flexibility from you Lotuzia. which is a pity, as I feel Xavier's talent is being filtered through you on this one.

You assume a lot of things. So, first, I did not shot the guy down, I said that due to the current structure it was -nearly- impossible to implement. At Xils, they think the same. So it's totally different from what you say, and well, that's it. Then we have listened to a lot to users suggestions and requests, and one of the last posts just proves that ( adding arrows to browse drumkits presets). The current state of Stix, compared to the first bgeat, also demonstrates that, and the people concerned know it too. Then, I've never seen a plug in where a company has implemented every request made by users, maybe you can point me to one . I dont want to see one btw, it would probably look like a convoluted gas factory. Or to be more precise, simply look like nothing. Then, if you refer to my early posts, I created StiX. And Xils was interested into making it real. And that's all. Last things : It seems it sells very well, and I can program patterns on it at the speed of light. I'm sorry to hear that you can't. Many other drum machines use the xox paradigm btw, sf or hw. StiX is just more complete. As for the final price, I'm not really involved into that factor, but I've seen a lot of drum machines that have a similar price (not judging myself if they're worth it more/less than StiX, but similar price range). I personnaly think that at the beta campaign price, it's a real bargain. Ymmv.

I am afraid Daags is somewhat correct thought. I have never considered asking for a license transfer within several days of buying a product, but now I do (i.e., even the sound does not help to get over the cramped, unintuitive GUI.)
Different strokes.... I guess.

[Lotuzia]

Sorry to hear that. But you'll make another happy user. Cheers. LtZ

[ftech]

Quality software drum machine at a bargain intro price. Bought and already being put to good use

[someone called simon]

Ok, so was just about to hit purchase, when I realised I don't know what authorisation to choose, elinceser or iLok… I have never purchased anything that requires either of these. I did some research, but some of it was potentially out of date.

I don't want to purchase a dongle. I understand iLok can be used without a dongle, and that I'll be able to install on both my laptop and desktop, I'll just need the iLok software. Is this correct?

I read something that eLicenser requires a dongle, but I'm usnsure if that's true. If so, I'd opt for iLok, if my above assumptions are correct.

Is there anything else I should be aware of, limitations or such, that could make me regret going one way or the other? BTW, I'm running OSX 10.8 on my desktop and 10.10 on my lappy, if that's relevant.

Any info/opinions gratefully received

[wesleyt]

Ok, so was just about to hit purchase, when I realised I don't know what authorisation to choose, elinceser or iLok… I have never purchased anything that requires either of these. I did some research, but some of it was potentially out of date.

I don't want to purchase a dongle. I understand iLok can be used without a dongle, and that I'll be able to install on both my laptop and desktop, I'll just need the iLok software. Is this correct?

I read something that eLicenser requires a dongle, but I'm usnsure if that's true. If so, I'd opt for iLok, if my above assumptions are correct.

Is there anything else I should be aware of, limitations or such, that could make me regret going one way or the other? BTW, I'm running OSX 10.8 on my desktop and 10.10 on my lappy, if that's relevant.

Any info/opinions gratefully received

I've got it running with iLok on MacOS 10.10.5 with no problem here. You just need to go to ilok.com, register, download the software, and log into the iLok Manager. Then you purchase, put the serial number sent to you into the ilok manager, and you're good to go.


Enjoy!

Edit: I meant to say I'm not using a USB iLok - just the software.

[SLiC]

ilok doesn't need a hardware dongle and can be put on two computers. (although if you prefer USB dongles you can use one and put the licence on it)

[someone called simon]

thanks people, looks like iLok is the way to go for me.

[masterhiggins]

Elicenser doesn't need a dongle either. You can authorize your hard drive instead. Plus, if your hard drive crashes Xils could just give you another authorization. I'm not sure how much of a pain in the ass pace is for that sort of thing.

[Lotuzia]

Elicenser doesn't need a dongle either. You can authorize your hard drive instead. Plus, if your hard drive crashes Xils could just give you another authorization. I'm not sure how much of a pain in the ass pace is for that sort of thing.

Unfortunately this solution is only for few softwares, like Cubase iirc. It's not available for all 3rd party eLicencer plugs, including StiX. So for StiX, the eLicencer version requires the usb stick.