KVR Audio

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:33 pm

Just demoing this now - much as I love some of the reverbs I have I was getting fed up with how much they tend to colour or fill up the space in some way so thought I would try this and I must say it lives up to the description - it really has a very clear and refined sound. Great for piano. Not come across anything else quite like it, surprised it doesn't seem to get talked about as much.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:02 pm

Also trying the R2 verb now - am I right in thinking the R2 is the Phoenix verb but with a gate and chorus added and an extra filter?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:09 pm

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aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:45 pm

OK - they just have identical controls - it's possible to copy R2 settings into Phoenix, leaving out the chorus etc.

Heartfeltdawn · Post by **Heartfeltdawn** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:36 pm

PhoenixVerb is excellent. I wanted something uncoloured and clear and this delivers in spades. The interface works for me.

transverb · Post by **transverb** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:53 pm

I have not picked these up, yet

, but they get a lot of love / praise at Gearslutz.

For a more wallet-friendly price point, I went with Acon Verberate for my natural / clean reverb. Also worth checking out.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:03 pm

Thanks tried it already, it doesn't sound as natural with bigger spaces, tends to intrude too much. For smaller ambiences it's OK.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:55 pm

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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:57 pm

Need physical iLok 2 or can the soft one do?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:42 pm

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stikygum · Post by **stikygum** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:32 pm

Besides the fact that I don't like to use physical iLok driven software, I'll say that this reverb sounds really good.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:04 pm

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aMUSEd wrote:OK - they just have identical controls - it's possible to copy R2 settings into Phoenix, leaving out the chorus etc.
Ok but even so , copying the settings from one to the other before applying the r2 extras, should not sound the same

I wasn't saying they do, just that's what made me think R2 could be just the 'bigger brother' of Phoenix. However the copied sounds are still very usable actually, just cleaner.

comfortablynick · Post by **comfortablynick** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:44 pm

I agree PhoenixVerb and R2 don't get all the attention they deserve. I think they are the best digital reverbs available (with the possible exception of the Bricasti hardware unit).

In addition to the great sound, the interface and controls are the most usable out of all the reverbs I have. Not to mention the preset system which is designed to get you very close to any sound you have in mind. I love the "keyword" style of storing and retrieving presets.

PhoenixVerb is designed to be a truly natural reverb, as free from artifacts as possible. I prefer it to Acon Verberate, although that is nice as well. PhoenixVerb has many controls that Verberate is lacking, so that helps in designing virtual "spaces." Here's a nice overview on using these controls to dial in a good room sound:

As I understand it, R2 is a take on the classic Lexicon sound -- just with fewer undesirable artifacts. Michael Carnes also coded the algorithms in the Lexicon PCM plugins (and several Lex hardware boxes) and R2 seems to keep a lot of the best qualities of those Lexicon algorithms. It gives a nice fat, vintage sound that I like very much. It has a separate EQ section for the early reverb and the late reverb, which is something I wish PhoenixVerb had too. It's obviously not required for great sound, though!

There is a bundle discount when you buy both reverbs so I think the price is comparable to the Lexicon Native PCM set...just with better sound (IMO). Michael's support is excellent if you have any issues. I had to purchase an iLok2 in order to demo PhoenixVerb but it's so good that I've never regretted it. I picked up R2 and Excalibur shortly thereafter.

Nick

transverb · Post by **transverb** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:25 pm

Nice post Nick! Cheers for the feedback and info.

Might need to give it a demo spin and wait until they have a 30% off sale. Is it Christmas yet?