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[c_voltage]

I reported earlier that it causes my daw to freeze needing reboot when turning speed up & playing note in ircaam stretch.

What interesting, this is similar method to reproduce crash that was for me before 1.1, but after update i cannot reproduce it. (I even tried reproduce this crash in motu M5 after install falcon 1.1, because at first i thought that maybe just something changed in my system, why crash cant appear, but no - really in M5 it still reproduced even now ).

[EvilDragon]

I still find the startup behaviour of Falcons library a bit annoying:
I have several UVI .ufs Soundbanks installed on a normal harddrive and each time I start Falcon it takes up to a minute before all the libraries get listed and are accessible - not sure why that isn't cached somehow? At first I only see three of the 14 I have.
During that initial scanning, if I open up a "Places" location and dig down into some folder, the moment all the UVI libraries are finished scanning, the whole tree is collapsed and I have to twiddle down again from scratch.
So basically, until the rather slow scan is finished, I can not navigate (I can but it's undone when the scan is finished).
I would like to
a.) have the libraries cached if they do not change.
b.) have the tree state not reset when the library finishes indexing (would even better if the tree state would be saved between sessions).

Would that be possible?

Thanks,

Tom

YES, YES, YES! I want this so bad too. Really, libraries need to be cached somewhere so that startups are faster. Kontakt has no problems with this

[ErikH]

I hadn't tried that one yet. Unfortunately the problem is still there:

Ircam Stretch, Complex.
sample from Simon's Bass Flute.
Set everything on IStretch to zero
No sound.
Reset the differnt knobs back to normal.
Still no sound, except fro processor cooler ( probably at max)
And Falcon cannot be closed.
Task Manager, close by force works. Processor cooler slows down.
Try to restart Falcon: still a message that Falcon needs to be closed.

I will have to reboot my machine to be able to use Falcon again.

Agreed: that zero speed setting is not what one uses normally. But if it is not meant to be used, then start from, sao, 0.01 but not from 0.

[ErikH]

Something seems to be far more wrong: I rebooted and Falcon worked anew (but had set itself to generic Asio driver)
Tried the same setup as above, but this time I let the sample run untill the end, with standard settings.
I heard the sound but the cursor halted at the end and that was it.
So I tried to change it for another sample, and Falcon hung. Force close, and needing once again a reboot.

Something went wrong during beta-testing guys. Don't tell me I am the only one experiencing this as I am not that exceptionally special.

[otristan]

Hi Guys,


@DrumAddict Could you do a screenshot of missing samples in MPE preset. Wasn't able to reproduce it so far.

1) Background issue with newly added EffectRack will be fixed in next version. Happen only when use in Layer/Keygroup in edit page.
I suggest not to use those in Keygroup(per voice) mode btw

2) For 1.1 presets you need to download the factory content ufs file. Newly added presets have an 1.1 suffix.

3) Will check back IRCAM stretch issue. This was supposed to be fixed so this is weird.

4) If you want to speed up the mounting process, do not use it
Just add a favorites folder with you UFS in it, and you will just have to double click those file to mount those
and add it in the soundbank panel with automount unchecked
UFS are mounted automatically if required in a saved session if available in the soundbank panel

@nrosko VST x64 windows works fine in Live here. Does it only fail in Live and/or other daws and standalone ?

@ErickH Wanst' able to check QuNexus so far? Will see if I can get one.


Please let me know if I have missed some stuff.

[Sampleconstruct]

Can someone confirm that keygroup note off triggering is broken in 1.1.0? I was editing some new patches this morning and note off triggering doesn't work when setting it in version 1.1.0 - when loading old MachFive patches, note-off triggers work fine - unfortunaelty I didn't test it during the latest Beta phase, but it seems broken atm.

Switching the keygroup to an DAHDSR envelope and note off triggers work again, so the new analog ADSR envelope introduced in Falcon does not work in conjunction with note-off-triggering, the old DAHDSR envelope works fine.

But when now using the old envelope, setting attack time to anything else but 0 ms will mute the sound, this can't be right.

FYI: the solution in this scenario is, to enable Note-Off-Retrigger for the envelope in the inspector, then attack times can be smoothened. The new analog ADSR doesn't work at all for note-off triggering, that's by design and apparently can not/will not be changed.

[ThomasHelzle]

4) If you want to speed up the mounting process, do not use it
Just add a favorites folder with you UFS in it, and you will just have to double click those file to mount those
and add it in the soundbank panel with automount unchecked
UFS are mounted automatically if required in a saved session if available in the soundbank panel

Well, that's just as inconvenient...
Since UFS files never change anyway, what's the issue with having some kind of cache?
Or at least don't collapse the tree when mounting is finished...

Cheers,

Tom

[otristan]

@ThomasHelzle It checks authorization at mounting time and as this is a big file, load a bit the file hierarchy. This is quite fast unless you have lootts of UFS.
Will see if we can improve it though.

[otristan]

On a more general note:

Regarding CPU usage, It can vary a lot, and when I mean a lot, it's really a lot.
If you use a traditional abstractive synthesis topology with FX, you will get similar results as other VSTi on the market.
(Please let me know if you see otherwise)

The only "great thing" with Falcon is that it is very easy to go wild, setting up 4 layer preset with lots of FX and arpeggiators is very common and this is especially true in the factory content where we have used this extensively.

Hope this clarifies things.

[TrekStar]

On a more general note:

Regarding CPU usage, It can vary a lot, and when I mean a lot, it's really a lot.
If you use a traditional abstractive synthesis topology with FX, you will get similar results as other VSTi on the market.
(Please let me know if you see otherwise)

The only "great thing" with Falcon is that it is very easy to go wild, setting up 4 layer preset with lots of FX and arpeggiators is very common and this is especially true in the factory content where we have used this extensively.

Hope this clarifies things.

are there any plans to let falcon adress multiple cores?

[otristan]

are there any plans to let falcon adress multiple cores?

It technically already address multi core (streaming, convolutions, ...), but not for the voice rendering.
This is an enormous amount of work and this is definitely not planned in the 1.x version.

Your best solution right now is to use multiple instances with a multi core aware DAW.

[ThomasHelzle]

@ThomasHelzle It checks authorization at mounting time and as this is a big file, load a bit the file hierarchy. This is quite fast unless you have lootts of UFS.
Will see if we can improve it though.

Well, on my otherwise quite fast non-SSD harddrive, it takes about a minute on first load for 15 UFS files, roughly 30 GB in size, half of them demo packs and other freebies.
My machine is a 6-core i7 @4.1 Ghz with 32 GB RAM.

Even if you can just prevent the tree-collapse at the end of the mounting, I'd be okay, that is what makes it really aggravating.

Cheers,

Tom

[ErikH]

Thanks for replying Olivier. But this happened in standalone mode and mouse-clicking on Falcon's own keyboard.

This said: The Qunexus is indeed a joy to use with Falcon. It has a few peculiarities and I have not even changed the factory presets.
Of course the tilt function does not work with a piano, but for Ligeti-style gliding dissonants (or Keith Emerson gone wild) it is very good.

[Cinebient]

From the MPE only the first 3 patches load without an error message.
All others show the message
"unable to mount the Volume from ´/Volumes/sans titre/UVI´s/Falcon Factory.ufs´(Invalid file)" when i try to open them.

The patch "MPE Meditation Pluck" shows:
"Couldn´t load the file ´$Falcon Factory.ufs/Samples/Simon_Ressources/Falcon Samples/Drone Harmonics Duet G1.wav´"

And the patch "MPE Contremy Bass" shows:
"Couldn´t load the file ´$Falcon Factory.ufs/Samples/ContraMarc.wav´".

[otristan]

@Cinebient Have you renamed your falcon factory UFS ?