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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:38 am

layzer wrote:If you can't make good sounding music with free vst's, you suck as an electronic musician

Dude, you are like a vegan who comes into a steak bar and cries out something like "animals are not ours to eat"

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:05 am

recursive one wrote:
layzer wrote:If you can't make good sounding music with free vst's, you suck as an electronic musician
Dude, you are like a vegan who comes into a steak bar and cries out something like "animals are not ours to eat"

This.

Even though what layzer said is quite true.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:25 am

Demoing is very important. Just yesterday I did something I had not expected myself to do. I used the u-he coupon to buy the ACE. I haven't bought a new synth for quite some time and 15 eur price was tempting. So even fully knowing I do not need another VA synth (or any other synth, as a matter of fact) I bought it without demoing. After installing it and playing with it a bit I immediately started to regret buying it. It sounds very good, of course, but I can already get all those sounds from Imposcar, PPG Wave 3, V-Station, ZTA+2, Zebralette and the two Xils synths I have, most of which sound equally as good. So most likely if I had bothered to demo it, I would not have bought it.

It's probably because VSTi's are so disposable people do not bother to demo them. So they ask in the forums instead and then just go and buy them. And later when they do not need them, they just sell the license or just let it rot on their hard drive. After all, it's usually only hundred or couple of hundred bucks.

In the hardware days when you had to shell out 3000-5000$ per synth you obviously went to music shop several times to try things out.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:31 am

Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.

Ridan · Post by **Ridan** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:46 am

That kind of blasphemy could get you burned at the stake here on KVR.

or at the very least pelted with pebbles.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:03 am

e@rs wrote:Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.

I probably have some kind of medical condition, an extreme opposite of GAS.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:09 am

robotmonkey wrote:
e@rs wrote:Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.
I probably have some kind of medical condition, an extreme opposite of GAS.

SAG - Severe Aversion to Gear

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:24 am

robotmonkey wrote:
e@rs wrote:Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.
I probably have some kind of medical condition, an extreme opposite of GAS.

Funny, but seriously now, did you at least check the presets by Howard? The ones labelled HS? I double dare you not to be impressed.

ATN69 · Post by **ATN69** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:30 am

Some of my first plugins were Omnisphere 1 and Nexus 2. None could be demoed before buy so I tried to listen to them and find out as much as I could from youtube, soundcloud, KVR, etc. Nexus 2 is mostly collecting dust but Omnisphere I use some times. I was however ..I would not say disappointed ..but Omnisphere was not what I expected. I did expect it to be more like a very good workstation with good traditional sounds such as pianos, guitars and similar. The sound is great and there is a piano that they set on fire before sampling it

..but such piano is hardly useful for me anyway.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:38 am

e@rs wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:
e@rs wrote:Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.
I probably have some kind of medical condition, an extreme opposite of GAS.
Funny, but seriously now, did you at least check the presets by Howard? The ones labelled HS? I double dare you not to be impressed.

I went through some of the presets. I got home very late and so I didn't have time to dig in more deeply. And no mistake, it does sound really nice, but I just got the feeling that I have done exactly what I have promised not to do - get another VA synth. So I kind felt meh, why did I get another VA synth?

Probably I just felt that it will not add much to the very high quality synths I already have and use for analog sounds.

I have more time today to play with it. I also downloaded some of the ACE additional presets from u-he site just in case.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:57 am

robotmonkey wrote:
e@rs wrote:Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.
I probably have some kind of medical condition, an extreme opposite of GAS.

Or it is a joke for April Fools day..

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:02 am

I'm just reeling from the revelation that VintageVerb sounds... vintage.... shocking.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:14 am

Examigan wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:
e@rs wrote:Can't belive you said you regret buying ACE.
I probably have some kind of medical condition, an extreme opposite of GAS.
Or it is a joke for April Fools day..

Nope, no joke. And you should not make fun of people with this serious condition.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:01 pm

robotmonkey wrote:
recursive one wrote:
layzer wrote:If you can't make good sounding music with free vst's, you suck as an electronic musician
Dude, you are like a vegan who comes into a steak bar and cries out something like "animals are not ours to eat"
This.

Even though what layzer said is quite true.

The thing is just that it's not his conviction, but his overly big ego talking. Wherever that may come from, surely not from the Carpenter movie inspired 80ies bedroom producer stuff on his Soundcloud. Apart from that, it had nothing to do with the topic, so i have no idea what's this autocratic stuff about.

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:01 pm

The real bad thing is that you can't demo the most expensive stuff in music making: premium Kontakt Libraries (Orchestra and cinematic stuff e.g.). Most of the manufacturers don't supply demos. So you have to buy some Spitfire library for half a thousand Euros before you see whether you actually like it.

Try before buy