I've been waiting for the integrated idea tool allowing me to save parts and recompose others. I have been using RC on a very casual basis and keep forgetting things when I get back to it. I was wondering how best to produce 16 bars consisting of 8 bars verse and 8 bars chorus with the idea tool. Basically all 16 bars in the same key but a different chord progression for each of the 8 bar sections. Is it easiest to just make 2 different projects for each section?
Thankyou
Mike
Love the new integrated idea tool. Best way of producing 8 bar verse +8 bar chorus?
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- KVRian
- 541 posts since 1 Jan, 2004
yes i would like to know this too.
"..What is simple, is simply seen.."
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musicdevelopments musicdevelopments https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=223336 - KVRAF
- 6014 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
(It happened again... I wrote a long reply to this question earlier today but my reply disappeared... 
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Hi Mike,
I was thinking about making it possible to generate multiple parts at once, but it would make the UI and workflow overly complicated.
If you want to create 2 parts (8 bars each), you can press the 'generate' button twice, with 'Add New Part' highlighted.
However I think you will most likely change the tempo, length, rhythm or phrases for the chorus part. So I suggest that you should first generate the 8 bars of verse, and when you are satisfied with the results, make the necessary changes in the idea settings, and start working on the chorus part.
The idea tool is constantly improved, I am open to suggestions.
Thanks,
Attila
)Hi Mike,
I was thinking about making it possible to generate multiple parts at once, but it would make the UI and workflow overly complicated.
If you want to create 2 parts (8 bars each), you can press the 'generate' button twice, with 'Add New Part' highlighted.
However I think you will most likely change the tempo, length, rhythm or phrases for the chorus part. So I suggest that you should first generate the 8 bars of verse, and when you are satisfied with the results, make the necessary changes in the idea settings, and start working on the chorus part.
The idea tool is constantly improved, I am open to suggestions.
Thanks,
Attila
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- KVRAF
- 1662 posts since 13 Jan, 2014
Thats just a good point illustrating what I meant with:
For example today: I swear there had been a possibility to generate a simple drum accompaniement, just could not find it in the generators. So it would really help to have a simple "red line"/workflow that helps you along and then dive deeper (as far as evrybody could - me just will stay in shallow water I fear
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EDIT: Maybe we could collect some ideas together what should be into such a "starting workflow for making a song with the idea tool" help ? I would imagine a simple song with simple song structure (like in this post example, 8 bars verse, 8 bars chorus) some grounding tracks (melody, accompaniement, bass, pad, drums -if possible -) and best starting points for that in the generators.....just as an idea
I realize (as another example) that I often have difficulties to get the connection between my "songthinking": I know need a pad and RC: Chord Generator ? Generic Generator ?.....
There are so many things I just dont know, forgot about, had been improved.....If I might ask a favour/request in case of additional help information especially for the idea tool:
- a simple tutorial of the general workflow for making/starting a song with the idea tool like "making a simple song with the idea tool in five minutes (or maybe ten) would be really appreciated.
- I personally (as an old fashioned guy) would prefer something in steps as pdf or something but of course in these multimedia days (little sigh...) a video would do
For example today: I swear there had been a possibility to generate a simple drum accompaniement, just could not find it in the generators. So it would really help to have a simple "red line"/workflow that helps you along and then dive deeper (as far as evrybody could - me just will stay in shallow water I fear
)EDIT: Maybe we could collect some ideas together what should be into such a "starting workflow for making a song with the idea tool" help ? I would imagine a simple song with simple song structure (like in this post example, 8 bars verse, 8 bars chorus) some grounding tracks (melody, accompaniement, bass, pad, drums -if possible -) and best starting points for that in the generators.....just as an idea
I realize (as another example) that I often have difficulties to get the connection between my "songthinking": I know need a pad and RC: Chord Generator ? Generic Generator ?.....
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 77 posts since 15 Jan, 2008
musicdevelopments wrote:(It happened again... I wrote a long reply to this question earlier today but my reply disappeared...
Hi Mike,
I was thinking about making it possible to generate multiple parts at once, but it would make the UI and workflow overly complicated.
If you want to create 2 parts (8 bars each), you can press the 'generate' button twice, with 'Add New Part' highlighted.
However I think you will most likely change the tempo, length, rhythm or phrases for the chorus part. So I suggest that you should first generate the 8 bars of verse, and when you are satisfied with the results, make the necessary changes in the idea settings, and start working on the chorus part.
The idea tool is constantly improved, I am open to suggestions.
Thanks,
Attila
Thanks Attila.
