Semi-Beginner $100 Synth?

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GHOST19 wrote:If you're 16 don't forget there's a 50% educational discount for Spire.
http://reveal-sound.com/educational.html
Sadly, I don't think that will help me, as I plan to use whatever synth I end up with for commercial purposes.(I.E., selling the music) :?
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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zenophilix wrote:
EnGee wrote:
zenophilix wrote:
Zexila wrote:Which DAW do you use?

I use Studio One Artist, came free with my AudioBox USB.(The standard AudioBox, not the 22VSL)
I also use Live 7.0.18, which technically belongs to my father but he lets me use one of the licenses on my computer, but Studio One fits my workflow better overall. The Artist version of S1 doesn't allow me to use my own VSTs, but that's why I still switch between DAWs. I can't really justify spending $80 to unlock VST capability in S1 when I can easily bounce my synths between DAWs.
If your main DAW is S1 Artist, then I suggest to download Reaktor 5 Player (Reaktor 6 won't do). Then buy Razor and Monark from the Market place here in KVR (mostly will cost you less than $100 together). You can also download Reaktor Factory synths which are free and has a powerful wavetable synth (Carbon 2).

You can use the same setup with S1 Artist (which Reaktor 5 would appear and also Kontakt 5 players). You can find them in Komplete 8 Players here:
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/pr ... e-players/

Razor and Monark are from the best synths out there and can do a lot of sounds easily. They are my absolute favourites and I can live only with them :P
This sounds interesting, definitely going to give the demos a try. Two for the price of one, that's the kind of shiz I love. :-o And these will all work with S1 Artist? I know I've gotten Guitar Rig to show up in the effects area, I'm guessing because one of the NI Player bundles was originally bundled with S1(Or, atleast, according to my audiobox manual) And, just out of curiosity, why Kontakt 5 over Kontakt 6? The whole Reaktor/Kontakt thing always confuses me... Komplete, I know, but that's about it. :hihi:
The promotional pics of Razor make me think of the crazy oscillators in Serum, hyped to check it out.
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Reaktor, not Kontakt.. :dog:

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I'm dumb.. I can't seem to find a place to download Reaktor 5, the link on NI's site leads to Reaktor 6.

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If I were to purhcase a copy of Reaktor, would it include the both the synths you mentioned?
Komplete players contains Reaktor 5 Player, Kontakt 5 Player and Guitar Rig (I think 4, but not the full version of course). The link I have posted it is for Komplete Players. You can choose which Player to install.

I have S1 Artist and it can show Reaktor 5 (Full and Player) but not Reaktor 6. Reaktor 5 Player can only be obtained from Komplete Players as far as I know, otherwise there is only a link for Reaktor 6 Player.

All the players are free and comes with some instruments and effects. Reaktor Factory Instruments contains I think 3 very good quality. Carbon 2 is a great synth and has many options, but the interface is small. Anyway, it is a free wavetable synth programmed in Reaktor, but it can be played in Reaktor Player (free).

Razor is additive synth and for me is the best out there. Monark is the best Moog emulation. So, you have the past and the future in your hands. You can download the demos of both Razor and Monark and install them after installing the Reaktor Player, then you can use them for 30 minutes before the be silent! That's a lot of time! But you can't save I think or you can't load what you save. So, the steps:
1. Download Komplete Players
2. Install Reaktor 5 Player (and others if you want)
3. Install Reaktro Factory Instruments (free)
4. Download Razor demo, then install
5. Download Monark demo, then install

Then buy Razor and/or Monark from the Market Place here in KVR for half the price of less. Pay with business option in paypal and never pay with the gift option, so you can claim the money if something goes wrong ;)
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.

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EnGee wrote:Komplete players contains Reaktor 5 Player, Kontakt 5 Player and Guitar Rig (I think 4, but not the full version of course). The link I have posted it is for Komplete Players. You can choose which Player to install.

I have S1 Artist and it can show Reaktor 5 (Full and Player) but not Reaktor 6. Reaktor 5 Player can only be obtained from Komplete Players as far as I know, otherwise there is only a link for Reaktor 6 Player.

All the players are free and comes with some instruments and effects. Reaktor Factory Instruments contains I think 3 very good quality. Carbon 2 is a great synth and has many options, but the interface is small. Anyway, it is a free wavetable synth programmed in Reaktor, but it can be played in Reaktor Player (free).

Razor is additive synth and for me is the best out there. Monark is the best Moog emulation. So, you have the past and the future in your hands. You can download the demos of both Razor and Monark and install them after installing the Reaktor Player, then you can use them for 30 minutes before the be silent! That's a lot of time! But you can't save I think or you can't load what you save. So, the steps:
1. Download Komplete Players
2. Install Reaktor 5 Player (and others if you want)
3. Install Reaktro Factory Instruments (free)
4. Download Razor demo, then install
5. Download Monark demo, then install

Then buy Razor and/or Monark from the Market Place here in KVR for half the price of less. Pay with business option in paypal and never pay with the gift option, so you can claim the money if something goes wrong ;)
Ah, got it. Not sure if you saw, but if I were to buy Reaktor 5(The full version) from someone on here, would it include Razer/Monark? Just curious.

Razer, from what I've done so far, is pretty nice, but so far it doesn't quite compare with Spire, atleast IMHO. Monark is a lot of fun, even if it's not the most versatile synth, it's quite enjoyable to emulate the old-school sounds.

And yeah, assuming I can get PayPal to behave. Might end up just switching to Google Wallet. :dog:
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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zenophilix wrote:
EnGee wrote:Komplete players contains Reaktor 5 Player, Kontakt 5 Player and Guitar Rig (I think 4, but not the full version of course). The link I have posted it is for Komplete Players. You can choose which Player to install.

I have S1 Artist and it can show Reaktor 5 (Full and Player) but not Reaktor 6. Reaktor 5 Player can only be obtained from Komplete Players as far as I know, otherwise there is only a link for Reaktor 6 Player.

All the players are free and comes with some instruments and effects. Reaktor Factory Instruments contains I think 3 very good quality. Carbon 2 is a great synth and has many options, but the interface is small. Anyway, it is a free wavetable synth programmed in Reaktor, but it can be played in Reaktor Player (free).

Razor is additive synth and for me is the best out there. Monark is the best Moog emulation. So, you have the past and the future in your hands. You can download the demos of both Razor and Monark and install them after installing the Reaktor Player, then you can use them for 30 minutes before the be silent! That's a lot of time! But you can't save I think or you can't load what you save. So, the steps:
1. Download Komplete Players
2. Install Reaktor 5 Player (and others if you want)
3. Install Reaktro Factory Instruments (free)
4. Download Razor demo, then install
5. Download Monark demo, then install

Then buy Razor and/or Monark from the Market Place here in KVR for half the price of less. Pay with business option in paypal and never pay with the gift option, so you can claim the money if something goes wrong ;)
Ah, got it. Not sure if you saw, but if I were to buy Reaktor 5(The full version) from someone on here, would it include Razer/Monark? Just curious.
No. It doesn't include them, but Reaktor 6 has some blocks from Monark (not sure about Razor). Reaktor 5 or 6 (full) has many synths and effects, I think total of 74 or something and you can also use hundreds (if not thousands) of free ensembles (only works with Reaktor full, not player). Look here:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... r-library/

I had Reaktor 5 before and sold it and I don't have Reaktor 6, so I don't know what new blocks are there for version 6.
Razer, from what I've done so far, is pretty nice, but so far it doesn't quite compare with Spire, atleast IMHO. Monark is a lot of fun, even if it's not the most versatile synth, it's quite enjoyable to emulate the old-school sounds.

And yeah, assuming I can get PayPal to behave. Might end up just switching to Google Wallet. :dog:
If you really like Spire, then buy it for the 50% discount. When you release and earn money from your work, then buy the commercial version. But, at 50% discount, Spire can be all you want for EDM. The thing is you need another host. You can use Reaper till you can buy it for $60. It is fully working and you can see all the synths there. So, if I were you, I would download Reaper and the Spire demo and see how it is going with you, then buy Spire at 50% discount (great synth indeed, I have Dune 2 among other synths, so I don't need really Spire, especially I don't do EDM).
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.

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EnGee wrote:If you really like Spire, then buy it for the 50% discount. When you release and earn money from your work, then buy the commercial version. But, at 50% discount, Spire can be all you want for EDM. The thing is you need another host. You can use Reaper till you can buy it for $60. It is fully working and you can see all the synths there. So, if I were you, I would download Reaper and the Spire demo and see how it is going with you, then buy Spire at 50% discount (great synth indeed, I have Dune 2 among other synths, so I don't need really Spire, especially I don't do EDM).
I already have plans to release music, I've been working on trying to put together an EP for some time now, actually. :phones: I have another host, Live 7, and have been messing with Spire since yesterday. I figured to get it on here, instead of paying full price for a fresh license. Majorly temped by Reaktor, but unless it contains some synths that have similar functionality to Spire/really wow me, I'll probably end up skipping it. I haven't been hugely impressed with a lot of NI's stuff, to be quite honest. :neutral:
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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Sunrizer from Beepstreet!

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Cinebient wrote:Sunrizer from Beepstreet!
:tu: Sunrizer's pretty sweet, but sadly not quite up to spec for my purposes. :?
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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Try this one

http://www.audjoo.com/h/Helix.htm

https://soundcloud.com/audjoo/helix-demo-jn-new-old

More or less in the vein of Spire, Sylenth etc, sounds good, pretty tweakable and only 75 USD
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recursive one wrote:Try this one

http://www.audjoo.com/h/Helix.htm

https://soundcloud.com/audjoo/helix-demo-jn-new-old

More or less in the vein of Spire, Sylenth etc, sounds good, pretty tweakable and only 75 USD
Sounds pretty good, but that interface...
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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Another (kinda unexpected) suggestion - if you currently don't have a midi keyboard/controller you'll need that anyway. M-Audio Code 25 is 300 bucks and it comes with Air Loom and Hybrid (each of them costs 150 usd alone) which would get your synth needs covered for a long time
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

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recursive one wrote:Another (kinda unexpected) suggestion - if you currently don't have a midi keyboard/controller you'll need that anyway. M-Audio Code 25 is 300 bucks and it comes with Air Loom and Hybrid (each of them costs 150 usd alone) which would get your synth needs covered for a long time
Um... I don't exactly have $300 to spend... :?
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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Dune 2 then from the market place! It has a wavetable synth and 3 operators FM synth with 8 layers. It sounds great and very inspiring for Dance music. Hive is also a great subtractive synth. You might like it.
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.

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EnGee wrote:Dune 2 then from the market place! It has a wavetable synth and 3 operators FM synth with 8 layers. It sounds great and very inspiring for Dance music. Hive is also a great subtractive synth. You might like it.
*brain explodes*

Preset 16.... How is that just an arp?

And 4 MSEGs.... I need this. Are there a lot of third-party presets available/does it have a lot of support in the audio community?
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.

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Definitely Synthmaster. It's on sale right now for 69$. And if you need modern sounding preset, synthmaster website sell quite a lot of them for cheap price too.

You might need to spare some time to learn the user interface though.

I use it in all of my music alongside the spire and serum.
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zenophilix wrote: Preset 16.... How is that just an arp?
Freakstylerz? It is a midi file loaded into the arpeggiator, you can load your own
zenophilix wrote: Are there a lot of third-party presets available/does it have a lot of support in the audio community?
Not a lot third party banks compared to Spire/Sylenth but there are some. Check these out if you are into EDM/trance

https://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/dune- ... -vol1-demo

You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

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