Do you ever think compressors, suck?

[magicmusic]

I do nothing ignore. you ignore again and again that this thread also want a look to other dynamic device.please please read the first post of this thread if you dont trust me. here stand

Way to get rid of every little bit of logic that might have been left here...

The "dynamic device" you suggested here (a certain brickwall limiter) sounds like crap the way you try to (ab)use it

first you tell a brickwall limiter is diffrent to a compressor and i bring Facts that this is wrong. but wy you not silent then, now you write more. this only your matter of taste and when you not tell what speaker you have and if you have calibrate them, then you can not be sure that you hear music correct. Or do you only want bash against me, because i notice the few bass in your music. Please go in a real concert, maybe with classical instruments, here you can hear too more bass and how it sounds. and please hear your music with calibrate speaker. also headphones sound very diffrent. there is demo from sonarworks for headphone too, and arta demo version you can calibrate too. Now you bring your personal taste as all should like as you. And anybody can test if he like use a brickwall limiter for vocal or something else to be sure no clipping distortion happen. and if he think 3 db is bad also 1 db is more than nothing and much better as clipping distortions or too silent.

And BTW: It make really no sense to talk about mixing quality if the speakers are not calibrate from other. rooms are too diffrent and so the frequency in room aremore than 6 db diffrent. thats alot. a measure microphone for 50 Eur enhance quality a lot. special bass is often wrong.

[jens]

I'm wondering if anyone here has any more of a clue what on earth you are on about...

[magicmusic]

another useless bash only post from you. I have 2 times ask what speaker you use, or headphones and if they are calibrate. Wy do you not answer this question and write only arrogant post ?. I assume you use simular iphone speakers and you think all music is bad except yours, because you mix your music that it sound on iphone speaker good, and so you wont no tell what speakers you use. I do my music not test how it sound on laptop or iphone speaker. but anyway if somebody know IR impulses to simulate this let know. then i can try how the example sound on such low end speaker

[jens]

What the f**k does my monitoring system have to do with this thread? Are you actually insane?

And b.t.w.: how would you know how I mix my music? (not that it has got anything to do with this thread)

[CrystalWizard]

I hate drills. Saws are ok, as are hammers. I even like wrenches and some tin snips. But i hate drills, drills suck.

[magicmusic]

What the f**k does my monitoring system have to do with this thread? Are you actually insane?

And b.t.w.: how would you know how I mix my music? (not that it has got anything to do with this thread)

You write

The "dynamic device" you suggested here (a certain brickwall limiter) sounds like crap the way you try to (ab)use it

First you write 3db is nothing. Then i made a testsong to show you that 3db can good hear. I use in my testsong 3db setting. and then you write that it sound like crap with my settings. fact is 3db is not so much, that it is able to do something so bad, that it sound like crap. So you really should tell what speakers or headphones you use. you sound as you live in a fantasy world. You go from 1 extreme(3 db nothing to other extreme 3 db sound as crap as i use). thats really

And when you say your opinion it is important to know with what you hear it. because everybody with music knowledge should know 1. music is matter of taste 2. music depend on speaker and room alot. I btw dislike all music that are play on iphone speakers simular. with better speakers i like more music. But if good speakers in a bathroom, i too like not. I am no minimalist. But its possible to calibrate small speaker so they can play bass down to 50 hz with equalizer apo. / at 50 hz need bass boost 12-15 db. it only can not play so loud but 85 db can reach and is good enough
And to your music, i know how trumped, drums, timpani sound in real, and i hear that your music sound as it is mix for small speakers that can play only 100 hz and above. your music sound same as when disbable subwoofer.

[phaded]

Do you ever think that commas, suck?

[camsr]

Do you ever think that commas, suck?

Only when used to decimalize numbers.

[eytanmich123]

Do you ever think that commas, suck?

Only when used to decimalize numbers.

...and compressed with no more (!) then 3dB of reduction.

Do you ever think compressors, suck?

LIFE SUCKS... what can you do ?

[Hermetech Mastering]

Love compressors, love using them, my fave audio devices. Good compressor and experienced user can't be beat. There are a lot of crappy compressors and abusers out there though.

[magicmusic]

Do you ever think that commas, suck?

Only when used to decimalize numbers.

...and compressed with no more (!) then 3dB of reduction.

Do you ever think compressors, suck?

LIFE SUCKS... what can you do ?

If life sucks try better compressor or what any it is simular called .Not 3db reduction, 3db increase . but if try tb barricade 5 db sound good too. you can try out. but you should be warned. Can sound bad on iphone speaker, because the thin plastic housing of iphone speaker or simular begin to self oscilation and produce ugly sound because of the more punch. if your make music for this better reduce below 200 hz with maybe 4 db /octave.

[phaded]

Do you ever think that commas, suck?

Only when used to decimalize numbers.

...and compressed with no more (!) then 3dB of reduction.

Do you ever think compressors, suck?

LIFE SUCKS... what can you do ?

If life sucks try better compressor or what any it is simular called .Not 3db reduction, 3db increase . but if try tb barricade 5 db sound good too. you can try out. but you should be warned. Can sound bad on iphone speaker, because the thin plastic housing of iphone speaker or simular begin to self oscilation and produce ugly sound because of the more punch. if your make music for this better reduce below 200 hz with maybe 4 db /octave.

You completely obliterated the transient of that paragraph.

[maxwelldub]

Amplitude envelope > compressor

all this compressor obsession mainly comes from rock dudes and people that don't mix sample heavy electronic music like hip hop or house. Take the time to pick your sounds right, get your amp, pitch, and filter envelopes dialed in and your drums tuned right (using semitone/centitone adjustments) and you're golden. No compression needed. In fact gates are a lot more useful, especially for cleaning up dirty samples and sorting out excessive printed reverb. Leave the compression for mixbus/mastering. Or better yet master everything yourself with some mild limiting on your first limiter and more aggressive limiting on the 2nd. If you've got the sound design right your tracks will hit way harder this way. But hey it's a lot easier to load up a compressor plugin than it is to sell someone their sound selection and design sucks and they need to go back to the drawing board. My hard learned 2c, ignore at your peril!

[do_androids_dream]

There are many folks I love who hardly use compression - and I deeply admire anyone who can mix largely without it and still produce very exciting, great mixes. Steve Albini and Infected Mushroom being 2 great examples.

FWIW, Steve Albini gets compression through tape saturation and other kinds of clipping. Even when using compression, clipping right before it is a great way to catch sharp, fast transients that most compressor don't do well with.

Yes, I'm aware there may be some kind of overall compression going on somewhere ie. recording to tape, but, compression, as far as I know, is not part of the 'process' for these folks.

[do_androids_dream]

Love compressors, love using them, my fave audio devices. Good compressor and experienced user can't be beat.

Yes, used properly they do things that would be incredibly hard to achieve other ways. One example would be 'glue'. I have 2 go-to compressors in mastering for gluing a track together. I don't know where I would be without them to be honest lol.