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a_Scientist · Post by **a_Scientist** » Fri May 13, 2016 5:34 pm

sorry but i dont know such words, what do you mean

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Fri May 13, 2016 5:37 pm

a_Scientist wrote:sorry but i dont know such words, what do you mean

Loud is the completely wrong way to balance these levels due to the way the brain perceives frequencies at different volumes.

a_Scientist · Post by **a_Scientist** » Fri May 13, 2016 5:39 pm

Need to listen quiet too, this both method works really

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Fri May 13, 2016 7:42 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote: Complete bollox.

does it need to be "that" wrong?

from my perspective, it seems that pre-digital era music had less high end. turning music loud can help you find out if the high end is going to be like a knife in your ear on a big system.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:15 pm

xoxos wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote: Complete bollox.
does it need to be "that" wrong?

from my perspective, it seems that pre-digital era music had less high end. turning music loud can help you find out if the high end is going to be like a knife in your ear on a big system.

No, I admit my comment was a bit OTT.

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Fri May 13, 2016 9:29 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:
xoxos wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote: Complete bollox.
does it need to be "that" wrong?

from my perspective, it seems that pre-digital era music had less high end. turning music loud can help you find out if the high end is going to be like a knife in your ear on a big system.
No, I admit my comment was a bit OTT.

Speaking as someone with volume-damaged ears, no, you were not OTT.
Mix at low levels, only occasionally at higher levels just for confirmation.
Respect your ears.

olepro · Post by **olepro** » Fri May 13, 2016 9:44 pm

The problem is your room.
If there is no room treatment or equalizing, nearly every room will boost the low frequencys and make mixing very difficult.

Mathematics · Post by **Mathematics** » Fri May 20, 2016 10:52 am

When I first started mixing, I used to balance the highs and lows by using a spectrum analyzer and reference tracks. I saw that DJ Warmonger said that too. I think that's how anyone would do it with limited hardware. I can now just hear it. I think someone mentioned about ear training. Well...that's essentially true but that can be too general. Just as suggested use reference tracks of different genres to get the feel of how much energy you want in your low end and an analyzer. It's not ideal but it's a practical and free solution taking into consideration that you don't have a treated room. Hey...we all started with less than what we have now.

Now, to actually tame the beast with a specific tool, I would suggest using a multiband eq, and if you can find a good free one, a multiband compressor, but used lightly, when mixing. Look at the analyzer levels. Btw, Melda Productions has a free bundle that has great mixing and metering tools. I would suggest using their plugins for learning.

Lastly, try looking for free plugins, then once you get the hang of them, you can look into more specialized paid versions. For the record, if you're seriuos about making music, you need good reference monitors...there is no substitute. It will be the best investment you can make for your studio. WIthout them...you'll just be painting in the dark. I only use headphones to check for tiny clicks, pops, or unwanted sonic artifacts from above 4kHz. One of the first upgrades I would suggest when you're ready to spend money, would be the monitors.

What is the best way to know you have enough bass-treble balance?