Lethal vst?

[Zexila]

It's very tempting, my main concern is that it would take me away from making my own sounds. If I could get past that mental block that tells me "I MUST make my own sounds" it would be a no-brainer.

Let priority be what you have in your head and if you can get that done throwing few sounds from rompler, awesome, wish I could make whole track like that, but unfortunately I can barely find few suitable presets anywhere that fit my vision, so why not really, maybe some of the sounds will inspire whole tracks, you never know, that's the thing with presets

[nineofkings]

I have that same mental block sometimes. I think that's what's beautiful about romplers. In some ways it's back to basics: you can only change the sounds so much, and you realize you don't actually need as much when you can't do as much. You can focus on the music and the vibe without worrying about turning the Filter FM knob up and down .4 dB.

It's partly why I'm down to use a romplers but usually don't use synth presets. With a synth I feel obligated to start from 0. With a romplers I can start from 60 and slow down

[Cyforce]

@bronxsound
You surely want to pillory me, aren't you?
In my view especially as a Nexus owner it's still a "no-brainer".

Every Nexus owner won`t see it as "no-brainer" because in terms of slim-interface-designed etc layout, Nexus is the best you can get, with probably the best sounds in it.

If a Nexus owner looks for a rompler with more possibilites - Omnisphere 2 is the only option.

If a Nexus owner looks for a instrument in general for more freedom to create sounds, synths like Serum, Spire & Hive are the true options - and well no rompler can beat the flexibility of a great synthesizer (as the 3 mentioned) - except Omnisphere 2 because it`s a monster

[kurodo]

If a Nexus owner looks for a instrument in general for more freedom to create sounds, synths like Serum, Spire & Hive are the true options - and well no rompler can beat the flexibility of a great synthesizer (as the 3 mentioned) - except Omnisphere 2 because it`s a monster

As a sound designer I am surprised you didn't reccomend Sylenth or NI Massive both of which are great Synths and cut the mustard in terms of sound design.

[Numanoid]

There's a brand new review up at BPB: http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2016/05 ... io-review/

87% that aint bad

But why is the price listed as $199 there as well

Is it Australian or American dollars ?

I'm used to prices in USD, GBP and Euro.

When I see the dollar sign I think USD

[Mystic]

But why is the price listed as $199 there as well

Is it Australian or American dollars ?

I'm used to prices in USD, GBP and Euro.

When I see the dollar sign I think USD

The $150 was a mistake they made which they fixed that first weekend (see the earlier post I made about it after contacting them) so early adopters got an advantage. Call it an unknown intro price.

[RFJ]

Spent the afternoon and evening playing it. I have kids and a wife so it wasn't a continuous session but I was able to dig in several times over a span of several hours.

The patches are pretty decent and worth the asking price for the number you get. Anyone not too interested in spud design will love it and be very happy, as will some synth enthusiasts. Like the other reviews, and the product description says, it's very modern. It has a nice clean sound and none of the patches are show pieces. Meaning, again like other reviews, they're ready-made to just drop right in.

I was most impressed with the lead sounds and was able to get some pretty interesting basses out of the leads by just dropping an octave or two.

The main areas I focused on this evening were bass, lead, pluck, and synth. I looked at the pads too but quickly moved on when I realized what I was actually looking for in the pad section was under the synth category. Super saw stuff and the like. All the sounds are nice, no complaints with what they do from square one.

It's when you try and go beyond square one that I notice some minor complaints. I found the filter steppy in the low end, but not really an issue unless you're trying to do a sweep, and if you are I suppose you could just dial up your favorite VA and program one. Because let's face it, this tool isn't really for that.

The other complaint I have is with sounds with movement. Take a pluck for example. The pluck is sampled and not being modulated with the on board filter envelope. So you can't open up the filter, wide sweep build up style, because the pluck won't react beyond where it was sampled from. You can sweep it all the way down but going the other way reveals this issue.

But like I said if you're wanting to do that type of stuff you might as well make your own. This tools strength lies in quick and dirty drop in of a patch and having it ready to just play as is.

All in all it does what it says and doesn't pretend to be something it's not. So, if the description interests you, buy it because what it says it does it does.

The free expansions will be a nice touch too once they start rolling in.

[nineofkings]

One way to get modulatable plucks, bass stabs etc. is to take a sustained sound from the bass, lead, or synth categories and apply the filter and pitch envelopes to that. It's still quicker than starting from scratch, since the starting point is already curated/designed

[RFJ]

^Tried that this morning and yeah that works just fine. Thanks!

Few more thoughts...

The filter is only steppy when swept quickly. I'm not a programmer and far from an expert on how algorithms work but it seems to just be trying to catch up when modulated at high speeds.

The good news...

House 003 (synth section) I think is almost worth the price of admission, pretty much exactly what I was looking for sound wise from this tool. Buttery classic type club sound.

As was said before by someone else the kicks are tip top too. Every bit as good as any I've ever got from loopmasters. Considering the last pack of kicks I got from them was 30 bucks Lethal crushes something like that in value for dollar.

[db3]

I realized what I was actually looking for in the pad section was under the synth category. Super saw stuff and the like.

Yeah, I'm liking the supersaw synth patches.

[Numanoid]

The $150 was a mistake they made which they fixed that first weekend (see the earlier post I made about it after contacting them) so early adopters got an advantage. Call it an unknown intro price.

So adding another 50 bucks will buy a proper Nexus with double the sample content

[Mystic]

So adding another 50 bucks will buy a proper Nexus with double the sample content

It was always supposed to be $200. The $50 was a mistake they made with setting up Paypal. Of course, you would probably understand that if you weren't being such a try-hard troll in this thread.

This has over a year of free content coming with at least one pack a month. Nexus is $250 with 2,250 presets. Granted, those presets are all multi-sampled, but by the time this year is up, I'm hoping that Lethal will far surpass what Nexus offers. They are the new guys on the street so they have a chance to create some real competition for Nexus at a lower price point for us which I'm certainly okay with.

[Numanoid]

So adding another 50 bucks will buy a proper Nexus with double the sample content

It was always supposed to be $200. The $50 was a mistake they made with setting up Paypal. Of course, you would probably understand that if you weren't being such a try-hard troll in this thread.

Pointing the obvious is trolling

Your just a troll yourself Mr. Mystic seeing the heretic post you made upstream:

The launch of this product so far has been concerning. The company who is making it has made a lot of very basic mistakes so far in that they've launched a product with very little information or promotion and are just expecting people to dump $200 into it. I can't discredit the product itself because we know so little about it but they should have at least posted a decent walkthrough of the plugin actually being used in a project to solidify it's value and what it does.

[db3]

Nexus is €250 for me, which would be $280+. That's why I took a chance with Lethal when it was $149.

I had a dabble with Nexus some time ago, but I didn't like how so many presets were over produced, or in layered loops etc. Lethal meets my needs with it's well chosen selection of quality tones for electronic music, and the promise of free packs for a year. As a rompler it supplements my VAs nicely. Sure it's early days for LA but the signs are encouraging.

[Numanoid]

Sure it's early days for LA but the signs are encouraging.

+1 Godspeed to them

What pisses me off in this thread, is that any criticism or different opinion is labelled trolling