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Boardwalk · Post by **Boardwalk** » Thu May 19, 2016 6:39 pm

PS Although the English win. Even with two words: fake improvement.

fluffy_little_something · Thu May 19, 2016 6:50 pm

Boardwalk wrote:PS Although the English win. Even with two words: fake improvement.

Nah, in this case the German and Dutch terms beat the wit shit out of the English one

felis · Post by **felis** » Thu May 19, 2016 6:55 pm

Boardwalk wrote:Sorry to say, but Arturia page loads forever. Maybe is a server upgrade something?

Whenever something new is announced, there's a mad dash to check it out, and lots of gridlock.

It will calm down after a while.

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Thu May 19, 2016 6:56 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Boardwalk wrote:PS Although the English win. Even with two words: fake improvement.
Nah, in this case the German and Dutch terms beat the wit shit out of the English one

OT: "Fake improvement" does not really mean the same. I guess there is not really a good translation. (Well, it's not really an official German word either...

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fluffy_little_something · Thu May 19, 2016 6:59 pm

Regarding GUI size, except for stand-alone versions, is there still a need for those built-in keyboards these days? Every DAW I have used so far had a superior piano roll. Just saying because the keyboard often wastes 1/5th to 1/3rd of the GUI, precious space that could be used for other things.
TAL for instance doesn't seem to include keyboards in his synths and uses the additional space to make very user-friendly GUIs. His sampler has a tiny keyboard, but probably only because of the special features of a sampler.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:03 pm

Well I'm not impressed by the sound of the new instruments, I mean sure it might appeal to some people with a major case of nostalgia, but I'll pass.

Now if they had a huge development team who were passionate about each instrument they emulated, then maybe I'd be more interested. However it always feels like they are just trying to appeal the masses here with rushed products that sound 40-50% close to the originals but look 100%..

Maybe I'll pick up the bundle if i see it used at 50-60% off in the marketplace.

This is of course all my opinion.

Boardwalk · Post by **Boardwalk** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:06 pm

@fluffy
@martin

Oh, if that is the case we win hands down

However, although it's not an official term in both Dutch and German, I think one is allowed to glue an adverb and a noun together if that makes any sense. Not sure about German, but it sounds likely.

By the way, in Dutch a 'noun' officially is called 'zelfstandig naamwoord'. Take your pick.. accurate as hell.

Okay, on topic..

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:08 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Regarding GUI size, except for stand-alone versions, is there still a need for those built-in keyboards these days? Every DAW I have used so far had a superior piano roll. Just saying because the keyboard often wastes 1/5th to 1/3rd of the GUI, precious space that could be used for other things.
TAL for instance doesn't seem to include keyboards in his synths and uses the additional space to make very user-friendly GUIs. His sampler has a tiny keyboard, but probably only because of the special features of a sampler.

Agree. And on top of that, the keyboards are somehow rendered strangely. Keys seem to 'tilt' around an axis which looks wrong.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:10 pm

kiezum wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:contrast to plug ins from U-he, GForce and XILS.
The discount on GForce Oddity 2 is much more tempting, because it sound so great. And when I need a Jupiter 8 I use Uhe's Diva.

So I was hoping Arturia would upgrade the sound if their older instruments. They know how to do it, because their (newer) SEM plugin is excellent!

I thought they were all improved... I can't tell though, because all the Arturia Software Center does is let me log in, show me a list of software for a millisecond and then return me to the log on screen. WTF? I thought maybe I was using the wrong password, so I tried another and it clearly knew the new one was wrong. It's like they're telling me to keep my money. Maybe I should listen.

[edit] Got it working. I thought the Software Center might be the way to download new versions. Not true. You'd think the new V Collection software would be easy to find, but it's not.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:13 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
kiezum wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:contrast to plug ins from U-he, GForce and XILS.
The discount on GForce Oddity 2 is much more tempting, because it sound so great. And when I need a Jupiter 8 I use Uhe's Diva.

So I was hoping Arturia would upgrade the sound if their older instruments. They know how to do it, because their (newer) SEM plugin is excellent!
I thought they were all improved... I can't tell though, because all the Arturia Software Center does is let me log in, show me a list of software for a millisecond and then return me to the log on screen. WTF? I thought maybe I was using the wrong password, so I tried another and it clearly knew the new one was wrong. It's like they're telling me to keep my money. Maybe I should listen.

I think their site is getting hammered atm ...

RTGraham · Post by **RTGraham** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:23 pm

Kevin [Arturia] wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: ...but, is it a decent Synclavier emulation? I guess I'll see. I really don't need another synth but... well I'm mentally ill.
It's not an emulation, it's the actual Synclavier audio engine running in the Synclavier V.
We have partnered with Cameron Jones the original developer of the Synclavier.

Check the promotional video to get the full story behind it:

Hi Kevin -

Thanks for chiming in here. Part of the signature character of the Synclavier was the fact that there was no resampling / interpolation for repitching samples - the repitching was handled by having the hardware actually change the sample rate of the voice card. It was part of why a robust Synclav system needed so many voice cards installed, and it was also one of the reasons why the FM synthesis sounded so unique. Does the new Synclavier V implement some sort of virtual sample rate scaling to achieve this part of the character? I haven't seen mention of it in the video or on the web pages.

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:26 pm

^ A record lurking duration ? Good Q

sergiofrias · Post by **sergiofrias** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:28 pm

hmmmm...Jupiter-8v had to drop the name to jup-8v, and the gui suffered a lot of changes,is my guess that that Arturia received a letter from Roland,since their original design was much more closer to the hardware...

fluffy_little_something · Thu May 19, 2016 7:29 pm

I know typical Fairlight sounds, but I don't know which sounds the Synclavier was famous for. I have seen the Synclavier mentioned on many record sleeves in the 80's, but who knows which sounds actually came from it

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:32 pm

Dasheesh wrote: That's the one I'm all over as well, and I HATE arturia, but it's a computer based synth and not an analog model, how can they f that one up right? Plus, they got the original code and developer involved. It has to work.

They are Arturia, they could F up anything (look at size of say beatstep and beatstep pro rants on GS)
Plus they got original code to compile and execute on what?

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Broadwalk and little_fluffy_something thanks for vocabulary extension

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