Can anyone tell me why I should spend $99 for a Geist 2 upgrade?

[ere2learn]

I see a means to alter the timing in Geist (post editing) but there only seems to be hard Qtz available?

No each step can be shifted a full step backwards/fowards,so if your recording in and your early/late on step that timing will be recorded in,as is.

I also don't see a means to record different note values in the same pattern?

I just use a different engine for triplets/dotted

[UncleAge]

If this is the case, I don't see the sequencer aspect as being particularly kickass although the sound sculpting abilities are!

Fair enough. I have a different set of expectations from a grid sequencer and what I use a piano roll for. To me, the ability to adjust all those parameters per step in the grid as well as ability to adjust the length of each track is kick ass. As always we can agree to disagree.

[realizm01]

Geist2 no longer supports the "spitter" sampler plugin. Which means now you have to jump through more hoops in order to sample directly from your DAW.

For some DAWs, this isn't a problem, because some DAWs let you route audio to the input of instrument tracks. FXpansion seems to think that because a few DAWs, mainly newer DAWs, support this feature, the spitter plugin is no longer necessary.

But a lot of us have DAWs that do not support this feature...you can't route audio INTO an instrument track in Studio One or Logic, for example. You can route busses and sends, sure, but there are no options to take any arbitrary track output into the input of any other arbitrary track. Which makes it impossible to sample the DAW without having physical ins and outs. Many of us don't have that luxury, so we own cheaper interfaces with only 2 ins, 2 outs.

FXpansion dropped the ball here. Me thinks that the coders got lazy, or decided that coding the spitter plugin just wasn't worth it to THEM.

Just something I think everybody should know. Those of you who are AVID users of the spitter plugin in Geist 1, say goodbye to it for Geist 2. And know that Fxpansion doesn't care about you unless you own one of the few DAWs that support routing audio to instrument track inputs.

[UncleAge]

Geist2 no longer supports the "spitter" sampler plugin....[snip] Just something I think everybody should know. Those of you who are AVID users of the spitter plugin in Geist 1, say goodbye to it for Geist 2. And know that Fxpansion doesn't care about you unless you own one of the few DAWs that support routing audio to instrument track inputs.

Did Fxpansion actually state they wouldn't support the spitter plug-in in the future?

[ere2learn]

I'm guessing no,its just that they didn't answer realizm01 over the weekend so that's the line he's taking.

Why would FXP not want to have geist fully working in all daws

[machinesworking]

Buy it. So I can get new shoes.

Cheers!

If you needed new shoes that bad, you could have done an intro offer where the prices were cheaper for a limited time.

Jus' sayin'!

We don't negotiate with terrorists

I know you're trying to be cute here, but I think FXpansion have consistently dropped the ball with their upgrade pricing. At some point in the future some huge discount sale will happen and Geist 2 will literally be cheaper to buy outright than to upgrade from Geist 1. That's exactly what happened to me with GURU to Geist upgrade paths, a few months later it was offered for new users at $75 instead of $99.

In my opinion existing users should be treated better than new customers, not be called terrorists even in jest, and certainly not ever offered a more expensive pricing than new users. I'm not trying to dog on FXpansion here, just pointing out that as an existing customer, someone who has helped keep the lights on, end users of that ilk are not trolls or any other sort of nonsense term, they're the people that can get you new shoes, period.

You blithely shrug off a question about introductory pricing and I use other developers. You explain why you aren't offering or politely decline the request and it's another story.

Personally I'm confused as to why Geist isn't integrating into hardware more? The two biggest competitors for AKAI type drum machines are Push 2 and Maschine, tightly controlled by MIDI hardware. I'm interested, but only slightly because of this lack of hardware support.

[pheeleep]

Buy it. So I can get new shoes.

Cheers!

If you needed new shoes that bad, you could have done an intro offer where the prices were cheaper for a limited time.

Jus' sayin'!

We don't negotiate with terrorists

I know you're trying to be cute here, but I think FXpansion have consistently dropped the ball with their upgrade pricing. At some point in the future some huge discount sale will happen and Geist 2 will literally be cheaper to buy outright than to upgrade from Geist 1. That's exactly what happened to me with GURU to Geist upgrade paths, a few months later it was offered for new users at $75 instead of $99.

In my opinion existing users should be treated better than new customers, not be called terrorists even in jest, and certainly not ever offered a more expensive pricing than new users. I'm not trying to dog on FXpansion here, just pointing out that as an existing customer, someone who has helped keep the lights on, end users of that ilk are not trolls or any other sort of nonsense term, they're the people that can get you new shoes, period.

You blithely shrug off a question about introductory pricing and I use other developers. You explain why you aren't offering or politely decline the request and it's another story.

Personally I'm confused as to why Geist isn't integrating into hardware more? The two biggest competitors for AKAI type drum machines are Push 2 and Maschine, tightly controlled by MIDI hardware. I'm interested, but only slightly because of this lack of hardware support.

Yup, for me it's the 2 year rule for Getting FXPansion updates, and sometimes buying the full version at that time is indeed cheaper then the upgrade cost. I waited 2 years to upgrade BF2 to BFD3 (in this case I found a great sale deal on the upgrade, which was still cheaper than buying the full version). For Geist, it was cheaper to buy the full version on sale at the right time vs buying the upgrade from Guru at any time. In any event, 2 year wait time for me for FXPansion stuff. I am always trailing 2 years behind the latest version but not a big deal to me. I have tons of other stuff to keep me happy in the meantime including my FXPansion stuff that hasn't been updated to the latest version..

[exmatproton]

I just bought geist1 in a sale last week and upgraded to 2, which was cheaper then buying geist1 without a sale......by €30,- weird (but good) stuff.

So now i have the content of 1 and 2 for less money then buying only geist1...

[c_voltage]

Looking at the updates list, these in particular catch my eye:

-Circuit-modelled filters, new effects, loop point modulation, 64 pads for slicing longer loops
-Vintage sampler emulation mode for authentic old-school crunch.

https://www.fxpansion.com/products/geist2/
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/fxpansion- ... ist2-33576

Kind of make me hope that they make it into an allround sampler, not just for drums. Edit: I think it is fairer to say that Geist 2 is more like a groovebox than a straight drum machine

V2 really has modulation ability for loop point(s) ? I mean - can change position of start\end points via modulation ?

[exmatproton]

Looking at the updates list, these in particular catch my eye:

-Circuit-modelled filters, new effects, loop point modulation, 64 pads for slicing longer loops
-Vintage sampler emulation mode for authentic old-school crunch.

https://www.fxpansion.com/products/geist2/
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/fxpansion- ... ist2-33576

Kind of make me hope that they make it into an allround sampler, not just for drums. Edit: I think it is fairer to say that Geist 2 is more like a groovebox than a straight drum machine

V2 really has modulation ability for loop point(s) ? I mean - can change position of start\end points via modulation ?

Yes you can Awesome addition

[c_voltage]

Looking at the updates list, these in particular catch my eye:

-Circuit-modelled filters, new effects, loop point modulation, 64 pads for slicing longer loops
-Vintage sampler emulation mode for authentic old-school crunch.

https://www.fxpansion.com/products/geist2/
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/fxpansion- ... ist2-33576

Kind of make me hope that they make it into an allround sampler, not just for drums. Edit: I think it is fairer to say that Geist 2 is more like a groovebox than a straight drum machine

V2 really has modulation ability for loop point(s) ? I mean - can change position of start\end points via modulation ?

Yes you can Awesome addition

Damn, thanks, i think need upgrade atleast because of this.

[ere2learn]

[exmatproton]

Looking at the updates list, these in particular catch my eye:

-Circuit-modelled filters, new effects, loop point modulation, 64 pads for slicing longer loops
-Vintage sampler emulation mode for authentic old-school crunch.

https://www.fxpansion.com/products/geist2/
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/fxpansion- ... ist2-33576

Kind of make me hope that they make it into an allround sampler, not just for drums. Edit: I think it is fairer to say that Geist 2 is more like a groovebox than a straight drum machine

V2 really has modulation ability for loop point(s) ? I mean - can change position of start\end points via modulation ?

Yes you can Awesome addition

Damn, thanks, i think need upgrade atleast because of this.

You can modulate almost everything. Awesome stuff

[c_voltage]

ere2learn, exmatproton
Cool, TY

[chili beans]

Is there a way to set it globaly? I only can do it per pad.