New Autechre _5 albums

[do_androids_dream]

but that doesn't mean it will provide pleasurable results.

Interesting... does art have to be pleasurable?

[do_androids_dream]

I've always found it highly puzzling that new or unique ideas are ridiculed by many and yet the endless recreation of the highly familiar is somehow applauded like it's something to be proud of. I would like someone to present a convincing argument of why that should be so.

A German humorist (Max Goldt) once said that, at a concert, people don't applaud the performance, they applaud their own memories.

All humans are instinctually drawn towards the familiar, because it is comforting, whereas the unknown can be unsettling. Plus, there's a social side to it: familiar stuff can be shared by everyone. People can clap in unison to a 4/4 beat (well, Germans can't do it that well, but you know what I mean), but they'd have a hard time clapping to Autechre.

I think it takes a special kind of open-mindedness to appreciate new or "unique" stuff. Most people don't have it, at least in my experience. Or maybe they once had it as a child, but it was killed off by bad TV.

Nice post. Familiar = comforting and unfamiliar = unsettling is a good argument. What I find disagreeable is the mickey taking and derisiveness often displayed when something 'challenging' comes along. It unwittingly shows the world much about who YOU are rather than anything else.

[Numanoid]

As a whole the 5 album package is too much for me, but this pick and mix selection pleases me well

A
12:31 1-2 c16 deep tread
08:57 1-3 13x0 step
B
24:28 3-3 mesh cinereaL
C
11:52 4-1 acdwn2
09:49 4-2 foldfree casual
D
14:31 4-3 latentcall
11:01 5-5 oneum

Booth & Brown please press on 180 gram vinyl and dispatch to yours truly

[spaceman]

but that doesn't mean it will provide pleasurable results.

Interesting... does art have to be pleasurable?

Maybe I should have said emotional instead of pleasurable. Although for music, for me, the two cover the same ground.

I want to make something clear though.. it's very obvious, but people tend to forget this, especially if it involves something they like.. I am not saying that Autechre is bad or that you should not like Autechre. Different people, different yardsticks. Things that tickle your interest or whip up emotions may not do so for other people. I listen mostly to Bach, but I don't expect everyone else to do so. I hope you don't expect everyone else to like Autechre, just because you do.

I gave my opinion on the music, I'm going to leave it with that. It's only my opinion and I expect some people to agree, some people to disagree and some people to have no opinion. That's the thing about forums, you get all of those opinions expressed.

[lectrixboogaloo]

Surely, whatever your feelings for this band are, what they are doing really is not new or unique much at all. Some trappings might be different, but the gist of the artsy parts of it is the same as since the beginnings of artsy electronic music. Which has been around since the very near the beginning of electronic music. Along with massive tangles of wires and tubes playing camptown races, of course.

So, different, unique, new doesn't count for much at all on that front. Style, emotive capabilities (musicianship), technical ability, whatever else might count in pop music would still count.

Their occasional appeals/allusions to real techno are ok and all, but you get a weird feeling from it. I guess that's good but also makes one wonder if after all this time they know what they are into. If they are making it, they are into what they are making of course.

So, mostly they are very intellectual about all these things and not visceral but don't want to come to terms that this is really their slant. That is the point that annoys.

(Surely you have figured out that i don't really like this music much, or much they have ever made. I am trying to be fair though, so I will just admit that is true.)

[Numanoid]

Surely, whatever your feelings for this band are, what they are doing really is not new or unique much at all.

As long as it is good, it doesn't matter to me

What I really hate about this release though is the sleeve artwork, even stuff over at Puremagnetik look better. Bring back TDR

[spaceman]

Surely, whatever your feelings for this band are, what they are doing really is not new or unique much at all.

As long as it is good, it doesn't matter to me

It's more niche than unique.

Personally, I couldn't care less either whether it's unique or conventional.
As long as it sounds good to me.

[Numanoid]

So, mostly they are very intellectual about all these things and not visceral but don't want to come to terms that this is really their slant. That is the point that annoys.

Hope they don't feel ashamed that I listened to their music while showling hay in silo, working down on the farm

I chop firewood to The Orb's Blue Room

[mcbpete]

What I really hate about this release though is the sleeve artwork, even stuff over at Puremagnetik look better. Bring back TDR

Last week, British electronic duo Autechre shared a new song, “feed1.” Today, they’ve followed that up with a new album, elseq 1–5, out now on their webstore via Warp. It is a five-part album with a total of 21 tracks, including “feed1.” Each part has its own artwork (by the Designers Republic). Check out the tracklist and main cover art below.

http://pitchfork.com/news/65589-autechr ... w-project/

[do_androids_dream]

..but I don't expect everyone else to do so. I hope you don't expect everyone else to like Autechre, just because you do.

At no point has this discussion included this kind of personal like/dislike mentality. It's not what I'm talking about at all.

As I stated before it's the derision for doing something unfamiliar/thoughtful/challenging that I don't really understand.

[Numanoid]

Each part has its own artwork (by the Designers Republic)./

For real?

They used to do the best artwork

[Numanoid]

As I stated before it's the derision for doing something unfamiliar/thoughtful/challenging that I don't really understand.

But familiar often correlates with what one likes.

I find Ae much less challenging to listen to than four-to-the-floor house, having to sit through a 7 minute "song" of that is like having a really itchy sweater

[spaceman]

..but I don't expect everyone else to do so. I hope you don't expect everyone else to like Autechre, just because you do.

At no point has this discussion included this kind of personal like/dislike mentality. It's not what I'm talking about at all.

As I stated before it's the derision for doing something unfamiliar/thoughtful/challenging that I don't really understand.

Well, there's certainly no derision from me for them doing something unfamiliar. I know that calling something 'random bleep' seems to indicate the opposite, but I don't know how else to describe it. It all sounds random to me, and that's because of how I approach music. Ironically, I actually like quite a bit of Aphex Twin, which isn't exactly far removed from Autechre. I also quite like the more ambient stuff from Authechre.

[do_androids_dream]

Surely, whatever your feelings for this band are, what they are doing really is not new or unique much at all. Some trappings might be different, but the gist of the artsy parts of it is the same as since the beginnings of artsy electronic music. Which has been around since the very near the beginning of electronic music.

It's the spirit that should be applauded - not necessarily the results. It's the thinking - the ideas - that actually counts. Originality is in its sincerity. And, a lot of people forget that it's these very people that push music into new territories. All the - now very familiar and formulaic - genres were once outsider sounds that took a certain braveness to present to the world.

Their occasional appeals/allusions to real techno are ok..

Because it's more familiar?

I guess that's good but also makes one wonder if after all this time they know what they are into.

A curious statement that implies that there is some confusion on their part because they're not copying music from a genre that has come before?

So, mostly they are very intellectual about all these things and not visceral but don't want to come to terms that this is really their slant. That is the point that annoys.

Another very curious observation.. You seem to be again implying there is confusion there because they're not making music that is familiar to you.

[do_androids_dream]

..but I don't expect everyone else to do so. I hope you don't expect everyone else to like Autechre, just because you do.

At no point has this discussion included this kind of personal like/dislike mentality. It's not what I'm talking about at all.

As I stated before it's the derision for doing something unfamiliar/thoughtful/challenging that I don't really understand.

Well, there's certainly no derision from me for them doing something unfamiliar. I know that calling something 'random bleep' seems to indicate the opposite, but I don't know how else to describe it. It all sounds random to me, and that's because of how I approach music. Ironically, I actually like quite a bit of Aphex Twin, which isn't exactly far removed from Autechre. I also quite like the more ambient stuff from Authechre.

Whilst I like some Aphex I find comparisons to Autechre very strange as RDJ does, basically, pop music. His music is in no way a continuation of what early electronic pioneers were doing. When he's doing anything a bit (as some folks would call it) 'weird' it's usually as some sort of piss take on some established genre - a bit like what The KLF used to do in a way. SAW II (I don't know how familiar you are with his music) was apparently meant to be a parody of ambient music just in the same way KLF's 'Chill Out' was also meant to be taking the piss too. If you listen to any interviews with him you get an idea of the sort of person he is - a joker who likes to laugh at his audience. AE come across completely the opposite - very sincere and dedicated to the music itself.