Rob Papen Prisma

[sinkmusic]

I doubt RP effects can be loaded into, at least as of yet.

Thank you, Numanoid

[Aloysius]

... If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection.

I haven't even tried it yet but that sounds like a sensible idea.

[aMUSEd]

I absolutely love Prism!! Props to Rob Papen for offering this for free. I only have one gripe, but the issue is of my own making. I segregate my plugins...I have a 64 bit folder and a 32 bit folder. Prisma is set up to read all plugins from one VST folder regardless of 32 or 64 bit. So even though it installs both versions whichever folder I pick becomes the default for both. If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection. Believe it or not I thought everyone had separate folders for 32 and 64. Since I don't feel like having to change horses in the middle of the stream I'll just use Prism for one or the other. I don't expect the dev to change things for me especially since I'm probably in the minority. Still....great plugin!!!

I presume it just supports RP synths so why not just make a separate folder for RP synths (32 and 64 bit) and either copy them in or even create symlinks to them, then point Prisma to that?

[Karma_tba]

I absolutely love Prism!! Props to Rob Papen for offering this for free. I only have one gripe, but the issue is of my own making. I segregate my plugins...I have a 64 bit folder and a 32 bit folder. Prisma is set up to read all plugins from one VST folder regardless of 32 or 64 bit. So even though it installs both versions whichever folder I pick becomes the default for both. If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection. Believe it or not I thought everyone had separate folders for 32 and 64. Since I don't feel like having to change horses in the middle of the stream I'll just use Prism for one or the other. I don't expect the dev to change things for me especially since I'm probably in the minority. Still....great plugin!!!

I presume it just supports RP synths so why not just make a separate folder for RP synths (32 and 64 bit) and either copy them in or even create symlinks to them, then point Prisma to that?

Impeccable logic...but I am just so lazy. Every time I load an old project I would have deal with redirecting the DAW to the new location. I have other plugins that my DAWs only like the 64bit version so this will make me move more stuff into that environment. I am so reluctant to leave 32 bit...it's silly but there's a lot of nice 32 bit especially now because the devs pushing 64. So much 32 bit stuff is being set free and I'm a cheap/poor bastard.

[aMUSEd]

I absolutely love Prism!! Props to Rob Papen for offering this for free. I only have one gripe, but the issue is of my own making. I segregate my plugins...I have a 64 bit folder and a 32 bit folder. Prisma is set up to read all plugins from one VST folder regardless of 32 or 64 bit. So even though it installs both versions whichever folder I pick becomes the default for both. If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection. Believe it or not I thought everyone had separate folders for 32 and 64. Since I don't feel like having to change horses in the middle of the stream I'll just use Prism for one or the other. I don't expect the dev to change things for me especially since I'm probably in the minority. Still....great plugin!!!

I presume it just supports RP synths so why not just make a separate folder for RP synths (32 and 64 bit) and either copy them in or even create symlinks to them, then point Prisma to that?

Impeccable logic...but I am just so lazy. Every time I load an old project I would have deal with redirecting the DAW to the new location. I have other plugins that my DAWs only like the 64bit version so this will make me move more stuff into that environment. I am so reluctant to leave 32 bit...it's silly but there's a lot of nice 32 bit especially now because the devs pushing 64. So much 32 bit stuff is being set free and I'm a cheap/poor bastard.

Why would you need to redirect anything? It's just the path in Prisma you would need to change to the new folder - once. Doesn't change anything for your DAW.

[Karma_tba]

I absolutely love Prism!! Props to Rob Papen for offering this for free. I only have one gripe, but the issue is of my own making. I segregate my plugins...I have a 64 bit folder and a 32 bit folder. Prisma is set up to read all plugins from one VST folder regardless of 32 or 64 bit. So even though it installs both versions whichever folder I pick becomes the default for both. If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection. Believe it or not I thought everyone had separate folders for 32 and 64. Since I don't feel like having to change horses in the middle of the stream I'll just use Prism for one or the other. I don't expect the dev to change things for me especially since I'm probably in the minority. Still....great plugin!!!

I presume it just supports RP synths so why not just make a separate folder for RP synths (32 and 64 bit) and either copy them in or even create symlinks to them, then point Prisma to that?

Impeccable logic...but I am just so lazy. Every time I load an old project I would have deal with redirecting the DAW to the new location. I have other plugins that my DAWs only like the 64bit version so this will make me move more stuff into that environment. I am so reluctant to leave 32 bit...it's silly but there's a lot of nice 32 bit especially now because the devs pushing 64. So much 32 bit stuff is being set free and I'm a cheap/poor bastard.

Why would you need to redirect anything? It's just the path in Prisma you would need to change to the new folder - once. Doesn't change anything for your DAW.

Unfortunately whatever folder you set in one version of Prisma it sets both to that. So if you chose 64bit when you load 32 it's set for 64 and vice versa.

[aMUSEd]

I absolutely love Prism!! Props to Rob Papen for offering this for free. I only have one gripe, but the issue is of my own making. I segregate my plugins...I have a 64 bit folder and a 32 bit folder. Prisma is set up to read all plugins from one VST folder regardless of 32 or 64 bit. So even though it installs both versions whichever folder I pick becomes the default for both. If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection. Believe it or not I thought everyone had separate folders for 32 and 64. Since I don't feel like having to change horses in the middle of the stream I'll just use Prism for one or the other. I don't expect the dev to change things for me especially since I'm probably in the minority. Still....great plugin!!!

I presume it just supports RP synths so why not just make a separate folder for RP synths (32 and 64 bit) and either copy them in or even create symlinks to them, then point Prisma to that?

Impeccable logic...but I am just so lazy. Every time I load an old project I would have deal with redirecting the DAW to the new location. I have other plugins that my DAWs only like the 64bit version so this will make me move more stuff into that environment. I am so reluctant to leave 32 bit...it's silly but there's a lot of nice 32 bit especially now because the devs pushing 64. So much 32 bit stuff is being set free and I'm a cheap/poor bastard.

Why would you need to redirect anything? It's just the path in Prisma you would need to change to the new folder - once. Doesn't change anything for your DAW.

Unfortunately whatever folder you set in one version of Prisma it sets both to that. So if you chose 64bit when you load 32 it's set for 64 and vice versa.

Yes but I'm saying make a separate folder just for Prisma and copy your 64 and 32 bit RP plugins into it (or symlinks to them might work just as well). So no need to switch anything.

[Karma_tba]

I absolutely love Prism!! Props to Rob Papen for offering this for free. I only have one gripe, but the issue is of my own making. I segregate my plugins...I have a 64 bit folder and a 32 bit folder. Prisma is set up to read all plugins from one VST folder regardless of 32 or 64 bit. So even though it installs both versions whichever folder I pick becomes the default for both. If they would make it so you could pick a different folder for 32 than 64 it would be perfection. Believe it or not I thought everyone had separate folders for 32 and 64. Since I don't feel like having to change horses in the middle of the stream I'll just use Prism for one or the other. I don't expect the dev to change things for me especially since I'm probably in the minority. Still....great plugin!!!

I presume it just supports RP synths so why not just make a separate folder for RP synths (32 and 64 bit) and either copy them in or even create symlinks to them, then point Prisma to that?

Impeccable logic...but I am just so lazy. Every time I load an old project I would have deal with redirecting the DAW to the new location. I have other plugins that my DAWs only like the 64bit version so this will make me move more stuff into that environment. I am so reluctant to leave 32 bit...it's silly but there's a lot of nice 32 bit especially now because the devs pushing 64. So much 32 bit stuff is being set free and I'm a cheap/poor bastard.

Why would you need to redirect anything? It's just the path in Prisma you would need to change to the new folder - once. Doesn't change anything for your DAW.

Unfortunately whatever folder you set in one version of Prisma it sets both to that. So if you chose 64bit when you load 32 it's set for 64 and vice versa.

Yes but I'm saying make a separate folder just for Prisma and copy your 64 and 32 bit RP plugins into it (or symlinks to them might work just as well). So no need to switch anything.

I see. BTW what is a symlink?

[aMUSEd]

Like a shortcut or alias but most hosts can follow them whereas only a couple of hosts can follow shortcuts (Live mainly) - are you on Windows on Mac? There are various kinds but on Mac I find softlinks work fine for most plugins/hosts.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/co ... -or-linux/

[Karma_tba]

Like a shortcut or alias but most hosts can follow them whereas only a couple of hosts can follow shortcuts (Live mainly) - are you on Windows on Mac? There are various kinds but on Mac I find softlinks work fine for most plugins/hosts.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/co ... -or-linux/

Ok I understand....thank you I will try it. At the very least creating a Prisma folder seems to be the solution. Oh yeah!!! the fun begins!!

[synzh]

created new folder just for Rob Papen plug "links", but -
shortcuts, symlinks (using Link Shell extension referred to above), even hard links using that same program, for the .dll files themselves are not recognized by Prisma for me on FL Studio 12 Win 7 64-bit. Also tried shortcut/symlink of the folder containing the .dll file, still no dice also.
Shame, want to try this; I keep each of my VSTis in a folder named by the plugin so there is no common folder at this level for me.

[edit] using the Link Shell extension, and "drop as..." -> "hardlink clone" of the dir containing the *.dll, does work! hallelujah.
also found that "symbolic link clone" works as well, so I'll probably be using symbolic link clones instead.

[ATS]

only thing I don't like so far is the slow load times for patches

[aMUSEd]

created new folder just for Rob Papen plug "links", but -
shortcuts, symlinks (using Link Shell extension referred to above), even hard links using that same program, for the .dll files themselves are not recognized by Prisma for me on FL Studio 12 Win 7 64-bit. Also tried shortcut/symlink of the folder containing the .dll file, still no dice also.
Shame, want to try this; I keep each of my VSTis in a folder named by the plugin so there is no common folder at this level for me.

You need to remove any symlink extensions that may get added - ie the file must appear to the host as a plugin so on windows plugin.dll symlink should just be plugin.dll, on Mac plugin.vst symlink should be plugin.vst. Ordinary shortcuts/aliases only work for Live (and a couple of minor hosts) but on Mac at least symlinks work for all hosts I've tried if you remove the extension and for all plugins except those that are symlinks already (eg Reaktor fx).

[MikeCallon]

Is anybody else getting 'empty' Bank dropdown lists for every instrument ? The Presets are populated but Bank is empty - is there somewhere to configure this or is it a bug ? I can open each instrument and change the bank from there but shouldn't the Bank list in Prisma be populated the same way as the list in the plugin ?

A quick update on this ....

When I installed the individual instruments I was given a choice of location for the data (banks, presets etc) and I chose a 'non-system' drive as I have a smallish SSD as my system drive. The instruments themselves work fine with this non-system drive location. However it looks like Prisma is 'hard coded' to use the My Documents folder. If I copy the files from my non-system drive to My Documents the Banks list is correctly populated in Prisma.

Surely Prisma should read the location of the banks from the individual instruments? - I have the option when installing Prisma to save the Prisma presets in a specific location (again I chose a non-system drive) and Prisma reads this location fine, but will not read the Banks for the individual instruments from the same location !

I've submitted a support request - hopefully a fix for this can be included in the next release.

[Numanoid]

only thing I don't like so far is the slow load times for patches

What is your system specs, do you use SSD hardrive?