Cubase is King of Midi in every respect.
FL Studio Piano roll is a close second.
FL Studio can run as a VSTi inside Cubase.
What makes a DAW's midi editor good?
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- KVRAF
- 6077 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
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Robert Randolph Robert Randolph https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7328 - KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2226 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida
Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why...Kalamata Kid wrote:Cubase is King of Midi in every respect.
FL Studio Piano roll is a close second.
Why?
Reasons, please. I don't care what you think is the best, I care WHY you think it's the best. What separates it from the rest. What about it gives you happy feelings.
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- KVRAF
- 6077 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
The reason I say Cubase is midi king is that it has
Cakewalk MFX,
Proprietary MFX,
VST 3.5 midi note editing (forgot what ii is called)
Easy to get to midi editing tools
Logical editor
Transformer
Input Transformer
Piano roll editing
List editor
Did I miss anything?
In addition as vespesian once pointed out:
Configurable drum maps
Configurable step/input recording (pitch, velocity, cc, whatever)
Note expression/articulation
Midi sends
Yet there are some midi features that may be missing and musician will find them in another DAW. Some of these features may be also found in other DAW's but none have all of them in one package as in Cubase
see Which sequencer has the BEST midi implementation?
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=85811
Cakewalk MFX,
Proprietary MFX,
VST 3.5 midi note editing (forgot what ii is called)
Easy to get to midi editing tools
Logical editor
Transformer
Input Transformer
Piano roll editing
List editor
Did I miss anything?
In addition as vespesian once pointed out:
Configurable drum maps
Configurable step/input recording (pitch, velocity, cc, whatever)
Note expression/articulation
Midi sends
Yet there are some midi features that may be missing and musician will find them in another DAW. Some of these features may be also found in other DAW's but none have all of them in one package as in Cubase
see Which sequencer has the BEST midi implementation?
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=85811
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- KVRAF
- 2960 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling
I really like the Cubase drum editor, and they just enhanced it. MIDI edit in Cubase is generally really pleasant.
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- KVRAF
- 6077 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
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- KVRAF
- 4316 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
FL Studio's piano roll is incredibly smooth and responsive. Once I learned keyboard shortcuts it was the most "natural-feeling" piano roll I've used.
A well-behaved signature.
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Robert Randolph Robert Randolph https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7328
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2226 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida
Kalamata Kid wrote:The reason I say Cubase is midi king is that it has
Cakewalk MFX,
Proprietary MFX,
VST 3.5 midi note editing (forgot what ii is called)
Easy to get to midi editing tools
Logical editor
Transformer
Input Transformer
Piano roll editing
List editor
Did I miss anything?
In addition as vespesian once pointed out:
Configurable drum maps
Configurable step/input recording (pitch, velocity, cc, whatever)
Note expression/articulation
Midi sends
Yet there are some midi features that may be missing and musician will find them in another DAW. Some of these features may be also found in other DAW's but none have all of them in one package as in Cubase
see Which sequencer has the BEST midi implementation?
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=85811
Great, thank you. And thank you for the links.
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- KVRist
- 139 posts since 20 May, 2006 from canada
Re: midi in Cubase - I also like the the ability to edit/quantize note ends & lengths, as well as the trim tool (eg.to make realistic arp'd chords). Both can go a long way towards "humanizing" rigid midi parts.
vespesian (sean)
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Cubase LE and AI are both pretty limited. Better get the demo of one of the bigger versions to check out the midi editing capabilities. Artis and Pro do require a USB eLicenser though. Elements can be installed with soft Licenser like AI and LE.bharris22 wrote:Can anyone please tell me if Cubase AI has all of the midi editing functions that are described in this thread as features of Cubase?
Thanks!
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Groundhog #31684 Groundhog #31684 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=361425
- KVRist
- 123 posts since 23 Jun, 2015
Reaper:
- Tool-less operation, no silly 1990s tools
- - eg with mouse modifiers you can select all notes in a bar and then timestretch them with two clicks.
- Being able to switch views in the same MIDI editor from piano roll to notation or list.
- Having drum diamonds on some tracks visible at the same time as having note rectangles visible on others.
- Really flexible visibility/editability using the Track List.
- editing of 14 bit MIDI CCs in a single lane
- Named notes in piano roll.
- Ability to use VST and JS MIDI FX on the input or output side of a track.
-- or as FX on items.
- MIDI buses, 16 per track (* 16 channels) (for MIDI sends, complex routing etc)
- ReaScript having full read/write access to all MIDI (and everything else) in one or multiple projects.
- JS scripting having full read/modify/write access to live MIDI (with interaction with ReaScript).
- Tool-less operation, no silly 1990s tools
- - eg with mouse modifiers you can select all notes in a bar and then timestretch them with two clicks.
- Being able to switch views in the same MIDI editor from piano roll to notation or list.
- Having drum diamonds on some tracks visible at the same time as having note rectangles visible on others.
- Really flexible visibility/editability using the Track List.
- editing of 14 bit MIDI CCs in a single lane
- Named notes in piano roll.
- Ability to use VST and JS MIDI FX on the input or output side of a track.
-- or as FX on items.
- MIDI buses, 16 per track (* 16 channels) (for MIDI sends, complex routing etc)
- ReaScript having full read/write access to all MIDI (and everything else) in one or multiple projects.
- JS scripting having full read/modify/write access to live MIDI (with interaction with ReaScript).
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- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
Groundhog #31684 wrote:Reaper:
- Tool-less operation, no silly 1990s tools
- - eg with mouse modifiers you can select all notes in a bar and then timestretch them with two clicks.
- Being able to switch views in the same MIDI editor from piano roll to notation or list.
- Having drum diamonds on some tracks visible at the same time as having note rectangles visible on others.
- Really flexible visibility/editability using the Track List.
- editing of 14 bit MIDI CCs in a single lane
- Named notes in piano roll.
- Ability to use VST and JS MIDI FX on the input or output side of a track.
-- or as FX on items.
- MIDI buses, 16 per track (* 16 channels) (for MIDI sends, complex routing etc)
- ReaScript having full read/write access to all MIDI (and everything else) in one or multiple projects.
- JS scripting having full read/modify/write access to live MIDI (with interaction with ReaScript).
Reapers piano roll is seriously underrated. Just the fact that you can user define grid length to any number and also stretch any number of notes over any number of beats is insane. Live does this but you have to delete a extra note after stretching. Which is odd.