Tangle: new modular FM synth

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ThomasHelzle wrote:I can highly recommend Bitwig Studio and it's sandboxing feature for testing this rather crashy synth.
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The days of plugins bringing down the daw are over :tu:

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Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written... :D

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Alright I'm in, looks like too much fun.

I'm on el capitan in reaper/bidule. It's not dropping for me yet but I'm unable to clear any of the connection cables. I right click and choose "clear connections" but it just takes me to the module below without clearing connections. Also, if I accidentally delete the gain amp where do I find a new one?


Steady yourself bro, this might be a little bigger project than you anticipated but you will get there. On the bright side, it has that same fat round organic quality of the mangle which I LOVE. This is a very interesting project. :party:

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It actually looks like part of Bidule anyway - colour scheme is perfect for Bidule

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I didn't need it but I liked the mangle so much and it was cheap enough that I just considered it a fathers day gift and jumped on it. This thing looks like a blast, and the way he is talking there will probably be further development of the product.

I just tried the wavetable blending and it just returns all the waves to sin no matter what waves I choose for blending.

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The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.

But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.

Cheers,

Tom

(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).
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ThomasHelzle wrote:The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.

But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.

Cheers,

Tom

(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).
I went ableton in 2001 until version 8 and then gave up on the updates. I gave that company thousands and they wanted me to keep buying in, and it seemed to be getting more and more bugs as the updates kept coming, and I got really tired of the round and round loop aspect of music. Ableton+beatport really did a number on music. Reaper is one of the most stable DAWS I've ever used and the developer keeps the updates coming tirelessly and it has more of an old school track recording feel to it. The menu diving and amount of options to file through is daunting though and I still find myself unable to to find what I want at times a year after diving in. all I really need is a great multitracker. I can go modular and start nesting with bidule. I still only use a third of bidules ability though. I don't like the available oscillators and filters much, they are just off the shelf stock, but love all the tools available to me in that case.

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Oscillator "detune stereo outputs" doesn't seem to be functioning for me.

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Dasheesh wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.

But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.

Cheers,

Tom

(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).
I went ableton in 2001 until version 8 and then gave up on the updates. I gave that company thousands and they wanted me to keep buying in, and it seemed to be getting more and more bugs as the updates kept coming, and I got really tired of the round and round loop aspect of music. Ableton+beatport really did a number on music. Reaper is one of the most stable DAWS I've ever used and the developer keeps the updates coming tirelessly and it has more of an old school track recording feel to it. The menu diving and amount of options to file through is daunting though and I still find myself unable to to find what I want at times a year after diving in. all I really need is a great multitracker. I can go modular and start nesting with bidule. I still only use a third of bidules ability though. I don't like the available oscillators and filters much, they are just off the shelf stock, but love all the tools available to me in that case.
Though Live does suggest that kind of loop construction for music, it's easy enough to avoid. The only time I use clips is for automation and then the clips are usually like 20 bars or more.
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Hello widdershins, just downloaded the demo and it crashes every time i drag a wire with the synth preview button enabled.

Yosemite 10.10.5
Macbook Retina (Mid 2012)

Also this may be an ignorant question, but why don't the parameters show up on the device panel like other VST's? (in bitwig studio)

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Anyway, this synth looks really fun. I will definitely purchase it when it becomes stable on my system.
EvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written... :D
Cool didn't know it had that feature :D Honestly, i never looked much into reaper simply because of it's aesthetic appearance.. which may sound silly to some

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zerocrossing wrote:
Dasheesh wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.

But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.

Cheers,

Tom

(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).
I went ableton in 2001 until version 8 and then gave up on the updates. I gave that company thousands and they wanted me to keep buying in, and it seemed to be getting more and more bugs as the updates kept coming, and I got really tired of the round and round loop aspect of music. Ableton+beatport really did a number on music. Reaper is one of the most stable DAWS I've ever used and the developer keeps the updates coming tirelessly and it has more of an old school track recording feel to it. The menu diving and amount of options to file through is daunting though and I still find myself unable to to find what I want at times a year after diving in. all I really need is a great multitracker. I can go modular and start nesting with bidule. I still only use a third of bidules ability though. I don't like the available oscillators and filters much, they are just off the shelf stock, but love all the tools available to me in that case.
Though Live does suggest that kind of loop construction for music, it's easy enough to avoid. The only time I use clips is for automation and then the clips are usually like 20 bars or more.
There has been this whole industry built around lowest common denominator and I understand that. People are trying to put food on the table and make a dollar and that means you have to involve yourself in a certain crowd. People were too busy trying to live after the recession hit to care about music. I miss the max msp days though. I had huge respect for those guys. It was too advanced for me and more than I ever needed but those guys were very bright and really introduced the world to what laptop music was. Programming max msp was like creating a nuke though. It was more involved than I ever cared to be with a computer TBH. Those guys did NOTHING but program max msp all night long. I know that eventually ableton picked it up, great for cycling 74, but it killed it . Basically it got reduced to lowest common denominator like everything else. I still listen to those old max sets though. There was a time that San Francisco and Montreal were on top of the world. Hawtin is the devil man. He saw it from a business point of view, took advantage of it. Made his money and ran. Left everyone standing in a corner picking their nose.

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WXLF wrote:Hello widdershins, just downloaded the demo and it crashes every time i drag a wire with the synth preview button enabled.

Yosemite 10.10.5
Macbook Retina (Mid 2012)

Also this may be an ignorant question, but why don't the parameters show up on the device panel like other VST's? (in bitwig studio)

Image

Anyway, this synth looks really fun. I will definitely purchase it when it becomes stable on my system.
EvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written... :D
Cool didn't know it had that feature :D Honestly, i never looked much into reaper simply because of it's aesthetic appearance.. which may sound silly to some
There are so many skins for reaper you can make it look like anything you want it to be. Logic, pro tools, anything.

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EvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written... :D
Where is the option for this,I asked someone before but was told there is no sandboxing in reaper :help:

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ere2learn wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written... :D
Where is the option for this,I asked someone before but was told there is no sandboxing in reaper :help:
I've read about an option to run plugins in "buggy mode" which will not crash reaper but it's one of those things buried in menus. I'll have to find it.

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Its right click,when choosing a plugin from the fx browser.

It doesn't seem to work,tangle brings reaper down with it

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