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jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:11 pm

memyselfandus wrote:I can't believe they are putting project 5 features in Sonar. This is Very good news!

There are no news in that regard.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:30 pm

jens wrote:
AnX wrote: Again, your poor grasp of english has let you down
How truly pathetic...

Not quite how i would describe you, but you def need to take more time reading/digesting posts before you reply.

pwal · Post by **pwal** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:32 pm

memyselfandus wrote:I can't believe they are putting project 5 features in Sonar.

yeah i don't believe it either

chris.r · Post by **chris.r** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:34 pm

pwal wrote:
memyselfandus wrote:I can't believe they are putting project 5 features in Sonar.
yeah i don't believe it either

soon this could rise to an epic error

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:57 pm

jens wrote:
memyselfandus wrote:I can't believe they are putting project 5 features in Sonar. This is Very good news!
There are no news in that regard.

The legal rights for Project 5 lied on "Twelve Tone Systems". This company was bought by Avid.
So the legal rights for Project 5 lies on Avid. As far as Avid still has this rights it will never allow Cakewalk to use Project 5 in any regard, even if the developer and the Code is at Cakewalk.
The only chance for bringing back Project 5 or parts of it would be if the legal rights would expire.
But as long as this is not the case Cakewalk has no legal rights on Project 5. So all this hype at Cakewalk is marketing to get some new blind customers. I assume that this company is nearly at breaking down, if they use such methods.

AROSSA [Cakewalk] · Post by **AROSSA [Cakewalk]** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:04 pm

MorpherX wrote:
jens wrote:
memyselfandus wrote:I can't believe they are putting project 5 features in Sonar. This is Very good news!
There are no news in that regard.

The legal rights for Project 5 lied on "Twelve Tone Systems". This company was bought by Avid.
So the legal rights for Project 5 lies on Avid. As far as Avid still has this rights it will never allow Cakewalk to use Project 5 in any regard, even if the developer and the Code is at Cakewalk.
The only chance for bringing back Project 5 or parts of it would be if the legal rights would expire.
But as long as this is not the case Cakewalk has no legal rights on Project 5. So all this hype at Cakewalk is marketing to get some new blind customers. I assume that this company is nearly at breaking down, if they use such methods.

That's is just plain wrong information. Cakewalk own the rights to Project5. Cakewalk was formerly known as Twelve Tone Systems, and is now owned by Gibson. And btw Project5 is not going into SONAR, that I know of...not sure where this rumor started but not true.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:27 pm

AROSSA [Cakewalk] wrote:...not sure where this rumor started...

It started right here at KVR. Allow me to demonstrate.

AROSSA [Cakewalk] wrote:And btw Project5 is not going into SONAR, that I know of...

That you know of? Oh, so you're saying that it's happening, just without your knowledge?! Or, maybe you're saying that Project5v3 will be released, but separate from Sonar? Hmmmm....

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:57 pm

... ad AROSSA:
so, please try to help me to solve my Cakewalk account problem.

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:23 pm

AnX wrote:
jens wrote:
AnX wrote:
jens wrote:
AnX wrote:Now orion is dead, P5 would have the market to itself
Sure, because P5 is the only thinkable replacement for Orion in the whole wide world...

Thats not what i said, but well done for twisting my words
So what possible interpretations are there for "having the market to iself", other than "having no competitors"?
Again, your poor grasp of english has let you down

AnX wrote:
jens wrote:
AnX wrote: Again, your poor grasp of english has let you down
How truly pathetic...
Not quite how i would describe you, but you def need to take more time reading/digesting posts before you reply.

http://thinkenglish.me/definition/to-itself.html

to itself

to itˈself idiom
not shared with others

• It doesn't have the market to itself.

Monopoly is at the opposite end of the spectrum of market models from perfect competition. A monopoly firm has no rivals. It is the only firm in its industry. There are no close substitutes for the good or service a monopoly produces. Not only does a monopoly firm have the market to itself, but it also need not worry about other firms entering. In the case of monopoly, entry by potential rivals is prohibitively difficult.

https://saylordotorg.github.io/text_pri ... opoly.html

I assume English is your native language. It isn't mine.

And yet you have NOTHING to counter my arguments, only silly insults and ad hominem attacks. Basically you are doing everything to avoid the actual subject of your post, because you wrote stupid nonsense and I caught you out on it.

AnX wrote:Now orion is dead, P5 would have the market to itself

AnX wrote:Again, your poor grasp of english has let you down

AnX wrote:Thats not what i said, but well done for twisting my words

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:31 pm

Missing the point there sunshine. I picked you up on "yeah cos P5 is the only replacement for orion"

I didnt say that, or imply it. They are many replacements.

Nice try, but an epic fail, again.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:36 pm

mellotronaut wrote:... ad AROSSA:
so, please try to help me to solve my Cakewalk account problem.

And since it is apparent he is reading through this thread, it would also be nice to know if they're even trying to fix the installation bug? Or if blaming the OS is going to be the new standard of reducing support?

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:40 pm

AnX wrote:Missing the point there sunshine. I picked you up on "yeah cos P5 is the only replacement for orion"

I didnt say that, or imply it. They are many replacements.

Nice try, but an epic fail, again.

You have to work a bit on your logic - it's broken.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:43 pm

jens wrote:
AnX wrote:Missing the point there sunshine. I picked you up on "yeah cos P5 is the only replacement for orion"

I didnt say that, or imply it. They are many replacements.

Nice try, but an epic fail, again.

You have to work a bit on your logic - it's broken.

Nope. Its your understanding and jumping to conclusions that needs work. Now, if you've finished you pathetic posting, jog on and let the adults talk...

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:52 pm

I could say what you said: "nice try" - but it would be a lie, as all your attempts to sneak out of the stupid, silly nonsense you wrote, are poor at best.

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:55 pm

BBFG# wrote:
mellotronaut wrote:... ad AROSSA:
so, please try to help me to solve my Cakewalk account problem.
And since it is apparent he is reading through this thread, it would also be nice to know if they're even trying to fix the installation bug? Or if blaming the OS is going to be the new standard of reducing support?

some time after my post here in this thread, i got a pm from AROSSA. i gave hime my name and email address(es). he told me, he couldn't find any information about a cakewalk account. then i gave him the Sonar 8 serial and the Project 5 v.2 serial, i have here printed on the boxes right in front of me. he has read the pm, but he hasn't replied yet. i've sent another pm, which hasn't even been opened yet.
btw.,i also have serials for Sonar 2, 6 and 7 (and probably a Sonar 5 serial, but i can't find it atm.) and a serial for Rapture (which is the only cakewalk software, i actually use, because i went from pc to mac several years ago. i once complained here on KvR, i couldn't sell my stuff. so i was happy, when i read, there would be a Sonar for mac soon. so i tried to log into my account, but there wasn't one anymore. not so funny. you buy licenses, can't sell them, account disappeared and a paradox and quirky service.

Cakewalk: "Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016"