I went straight from 10.9 to 10.11... my main audio computer is still 10.9.5... however, I have had no significant trouble at all with El Capitan. I think you are overstating your point.Dewdman42 wrote:10.9 is only a couple of years old and by far represents the most stable version of OSX at the moment. Both Yosemite and El Capitan have had significant issues.
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Thanks, you too, I'm really enjoying it, as probably you do too, that's all that matters to me, if X were my cup of tea, I would swallow whole get new machine and OS X for it, but Apple went all in on this one, so I folded.Sampleconstruct wrote:Enjoy.Zexila wrote:It changed enough for me to not feel comfortable using it or plan the future on it, I'm not the one having hard time to understand what personal preference means here, if X and new OS X works for you, awesome, it doesn't for me.Sampleconstruct wrote:Nice poetry, but things have changed in the guts not only on the surface, all these new features and bugfixes are helping musicians and sound designers to produce better results, I don't care about hair styles and Gucci shoes at all.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here?
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- 26928 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Enjoy yourself...Zexila wrote:Agree absolutely, really like OS X and Logic, but they really ruined both of them enough to kill my desire to keep using them beyond what I have now, didn't lost my mind to pretend it's all dandy, my next DAW will be something Windows based and any new machine too, definitely out of Apple loop for good.Dewdman42 wrote:10.9 is only a couple of years old and by far represents the most stable version of OSX at the moment. Both Yosemite and El Capitan have had significant issues. There are still web pages dedicated to the audio industry stating which audio stuff does not yet work under 10.11. I think its positively outrageous and arrogant for Apple to force 10.11 updates upon users in order to get this "minor" update to LPX. Furthermore its preposterous that Apple continues to force people to upgrade the OS every year just to keep up with the software they use...particularly when these OS upgrades often contain as many new problems as new features. I actually really love using OSX....but Apple is doing everything in its power to ruin my user experience, every year they pull some crap like this.
I volunteer in a non-profit office. Maybe 3 out of 5 people have Apple laptops, the others Windows machines. In the year and a half I have been volunteering there, the people with the windows machines have consistently had this or that issue, and spend much more time attending to the machine. I've watched this pattern for a long time now.
I don't like Apple and I don't particularly like computers. It is a necessary tool and I buy Apple because it requires the least amount of time spent on the machine and allows the most time for doing the stuff that I have the computer for.
I generally wait a while to update and that has worked very well for me. El Capitan works great on my laptop... it is super fast and productive and I have had no issues. My main audio machine is still 10.9.5 but I am going to upgrade it to El Capitan soon.
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- KVRAF
- 17925 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
I did the same.aMUSEd wrote:Yes that's what I do, I upgraded to Yosemite when El Cap came out.LFO8 wrote:To me, Mavericks was buggy and Yosemite the most stable. Running on a Mid 2012 Mac Pro. Not touching El Capitan yet. It's always best to stay about a year and a half behind on OS releases. Totally no need to upgrade every year. No one forces you to upgrade every year.Dewdman42 wrote:10.9 is only a couple of years old and by far represents the most stable version of OSX at the moment. Both Yosemite and El Capitan have had significant issues.
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- KVRAF
- 3398 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
pdxindy wrote:I went straight from 10.9 to 10.11... my main audio computer is still 10.9.5... however, I have had no significant trouble at all with El Capitan. I think you are overstating your point.Dewdman42 wrote:10.9 is only a couple of years old and by far represents the most stable version of OSX at the moment. Both Yosemite and El Capitan have had significant issues.
10.9.5 was always super solid for me. no issues.
I updated to 10.11.5 yesterday on my laptop.. not main desktop computer.. to get new logic update.. so far so good but i'll sit with it a week or so and see how it goes before putting 10.11.5 on the desktop.
they did remove "repair permissions" from disk utility and now to do that you have to use terminal and command line stuff but "repair permissions" is something that apparently the new OS does automatically and supposed to be "impossible for permissions to be corrupted" so we'll see. a lot of people say repair permissions doesn't do anything to fix any problems. but i've always done it routinely after any install.
- KVRAF
- 37378 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I'm still prevaricating about upgrading to El Cap - no rush, I did the same for Logic X tbh too but when they added Alchemy 2 I took the plunge and am glad I did - it loads much much faster and is much snappier than Logic 9 which I had virtually stopped using it was so sluggish. Took me a while to find everything but now I'm used to it I prefer the interface too.
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- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Тhanks again (funny Simon said the same), I'm enjoying, wish the same to you too.pdxindy wrote:Enjoy yourself...Zexila wrote:Agree absolutely, really like OS X and Logic, but they really ruined both of them enough to kill my desire to keep using them beyond what I have now, didn't lost my mind to pretend it's all dandy, my next DAW will be something Windows based and any new machine too, definitely out of Apple loop for good.Dewdman42 wrote:10.9 is only a couple of years old and by far represents the most stable version of OSX at the moment. Both Yosemite and El Capitan have had significant issues. There are still web pages dedicated to the audio industry stating which audio stuff does not yet work under 10.11. I think its positively outrageous and arrogant for Apple to force 10.11 updates upon users in order to get this "minor" update to LPX. Furthermore its preposterous that Apple continues to force people to upgrade the OS every year just to keep up with the software they use...particularly when these OS upgrades often contain as many new problems as new features. I actually really love using OSX....but Apple is doing everything in its power to ruin my user experience, every year they pull some crap like this.
I volunteer in a non-profit office. Maybe 3 out of 5 people have Apple laptops, the others Windows machines. In the year and a half I have been volunteering there, the people with the windows machines have consistently had this or that issue, and spend much more time attending to the machine. I've watched this pattern for a long time now.
I don't like Apple and I don't particularly like computers. It is a necessary tool and I buy Apple because it requires the least amount of time spent on the machine and allows the most time for doing the stuff that I have the computer for.
I generally wait a while to update and that has worked very well for me. El Capitan works great on my laptop... it is super fast and productive and I have had no issues. My main audio machine is still 10.9.5 but I am going to upgrade it to El Capitan soon.
As you said, whatever is necessary to make music, I'm staying with good thing I got now, but this is the last Apple investment for sure, saw few guys still making music with Logic 5 on Win XP PC, I couldn't really, but they could and are, nothing is stopping them to enjoy every bit of it, imagine if somebody gifted them new trash bin with X, they wouldn't blink for a second and continue making music on old trash bin where they feel comfortable and what works for them....in the end of the day, that's all that matters.
Do I approve Apple way, I have no reasons to, if I had, I would find a way to swallow it and my enjoyment in Logic would make it all worth it, but have no reasons to do that or to loose objectivity about it.
Actually got myself decent desktop PC and dislike Windows with a passion, but would swallow it for a DAW, but there's still no DAW that would make me do that and as I said, there's no DAW to actually make me get new Mac either and jump on the Apple nonsense train, so yeah.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here?
ShawnG
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- 26928 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
There is no hurry to upgrade the El Cap... It works really well here... fast and efficient. But I also have not switched my audio machine. If this update really does lose compatibility with 10.9 then that might be the nudge to finally switch... but that can wait a few weeksaMUSEd wrote:I'm still prevaricating about upgrading to El Cap - no rush, I did the same for Logic X tbh too but when they added Alchemy 2 I took the plunge and am glad I did - it loads much much faster and is much snappier than Logic 9 which I had virtually stopped using it was so sluggish. Took me a while to find everything but now I'm used to it I prefer the interface too.
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- KVRian
- 906 posts since 25 Jan, 2014
Quick question for logic pro users... is this possible to store a midi loop and when recall it, it loads up with its instrument and channel strip setting?
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- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Testing the improved spectral re-synthesis in Alchemy/Logic 10.2.3 with some multi-sampled cello swells live on video, it sounded good before and sounds better now, the advantages of spectrally re-synthesized multi-sampled instruments are numerous compared to sampled instruments, so much one can do with it in Alchemy 2 to substantially alter and mutate the sound - great stuff!
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Is the spectral resynthesis improved in 10.2.3? Or was it improved earlier with Alchemy 2 and you are just getting around to trying it?Sampleconstruct wrote:Testing the improved spectral re-synthesis in Alchemy/Logic 10.2.3
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- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
It was further improved with this update and I have been using it since day 1.pdxindy wrote:Is the spectral resynthesis improved in 10.2.3? Or was it improved earlier with Alchemy 2 and you are just getting around to trying it?Sampleconstruct wrote:Testing the improved spectral re-synthesis in Alchemy/Logic 10.2.3
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- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
From the release notes:Sampleconstruct wrote:It was further improved with this update and I have been using it since day 1.pdxindy wrote:Is the spectral resynthesis improved in 10.2.3? Or was it improved earlier with Alchemy 2 and you are just getting around to trying it?Sampleconstruct wrote:Testing the improved spectral re-synthesis in Alchemy/Logic 10.2.3
I tested it with all sorts of samples and it's indeed improved, less artifacts, more balanced frequency spectrum, more natural sound (if you a re re-synthesizing acoustic samples that is).Sound quality is improved in Alchemy when samples are imported using Additive + Spectral Analysis Mode.
