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Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:39 pm

You will have to stick a pin in the screen. Be careful ...

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:43 pm

HREQ wrote:You guys kinda hurtin my feelings saying I don't love music, here is some of my 2013 tracks, I swear pure soul poured into all of these. btw this album is the only one I've released, it got no views no plays, no idea what genre.

There is so much great music out there, so much choice, it is not easy for an up and coming producer to get noticed.

Many bands back in the day would not have made it if they didn't have a good manager, press agent, radio plugger

Where would U2 by without Paul McGuinness, Depeche Mode without Daniel Miller, Iron Maiden without Rod Smallwood ?

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:51 pm

Numanoid wrote:Many bands back in the day would not have made it if they didn't have a good manager, press agent, radio plugger

Not to mention that a lot of those bands from back in the day probably wouldn't make it now.

The industry doesn't hold the keys anymore so we're saturated with acts. And with the internet everyone can be heard now.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:56 pm

sprnva wrote:The industry doesn't hold the keys anymore so we're saturated with acts. And with the internet everyone can be heard now.

And to me that means that more than ever promotion is important now, how else to get somebody listening to new/unheard material ?

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:57 pm

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:58 pm

Why limit yourself to one genre?

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:59 pm

It seems to me that it's listeners/radio/sample-pack-producers that define the genres, not the artist. Artists just make music, usually (but not always) in the style (NOT genre!) of the music they grew up with. I grew up with The Shadows, The Beatles, Motown and Brian Auger and the like, and then, a little bit later, Tangerine Dream - so that's where my music comes from. I'm aiming for "Ambient Funk". Wish me luck!

I think the only real choices we make concern the instrumentation of our music - you're not likely to make edm with an orchestral sample library, or a symphony with Massive or Diva. Instrumentation will point you in a direction, where you end up - who knows. And anyway, isn't that how new genres appear? Soneone taking an unusual direction with their music/instrumentation?

If you really must focus on a genre, try using several online personas, one for each of 2/3/4/whatever genres you like. Maybe one will take off.

And keep making music.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:01 pm

Ayorinde wrote:I'm aiming for "Ambient Funk". Wish me luck!

Godspeed!

Sounds like an excellent venture

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:05 pm

I think one of the biggest mistakes artists do is that they let users listen to their stuff for free.

Free now is like throwaway, everything is free, why even bother with it.

To put a price on it, means people will think it has got more value

BITWORD · Post by **BITWORD** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:10 pm

Agreed - 30sec clips are enough...

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:13 pm

Codestation wrote:Find your monster. It's in there, we all have one (or more). Prod it. Find what terrifies you. Find what makes you feel primitive and enraged, and feed that f**ker your soul. You may find this inner demon gives you more material than you can keep up with.

This is now my favorite quote ever.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:23 pm

zenophilix wrote:
Codestation wrote:Find your monster. It's in there, we all have one (or more). Prod it. Find what terrifies you. Find what makes you feel primitive and enraged, and feed that f**ker your soul. You may find this inner demon gives you more material than you can keep up with.
This is now my favorite quote ever.

+1 that is well put

Torment that inner monster, make it work for you

classic · Post by **classic** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:44 pm

Who says you have to choose on?
If you are just inspired in making a song that sounds so and so, do it.
If the inspiration comes different, then make it sounding another way.
If Rock comes to your mind, produce Rock.
If it is HipHop do it.

Who the hell says you have to choose on style.
I never did. I make classic, Rock, Soundtrack, and others.
I am free to do what I want.

Why choose on?

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:57 pm

HREQ wrote:FWIW I'm considering your points on "the genre chooses you" think, but I can't help but think it's not the end all. There's so many talent musicians who zero in on specific genres and have amazing stuff.

Genre chooses you. If you're really into game music, then make game music. When you have really found yourself musically and built some musical identity, you can try more easily some other genres while still sound like YOU. I have a friend who's in to film score. That epic stuff with lots of strings etc etc and he's AWESOME in it. Then he tried to make some bass stuff in the name of "I want to earn money with this". It sucked horribly.

HREQ wrote:I'm a fan of video game music specifically touhou series. I was really getting into it and started producing similar music to it (never released any)

Well make some more and please, release it ^^ I want to see some soundcloud link to your game music at least next friday.

HREQ wrote:Then I'm like, I need to make money some how from this.

This f**ks up everything. Forget this harmful behaviour. You'll get your money from game music some day (if it's meant to happen). I had similar things going on when I suddenly decided one day that "I have to make house to earn money with this". Biggest mistake on my musical journey EVER. It went so bad that I almost gave up making music at all.

HREQ wrote:I spent like a year trying to figure out how to produce realistic virtual bands and then I see all these electronic musicians getting famous in process I'm like SHIT, why don't I just produce that stuff? I mean I like that too, just not as much as rok/metal. and that stuff is native to VST computer musicians, rather then trying to copy real instruments I could just do that.

Time.. Well not really wasted since you've must really learned something. But wasted from the game music at least.

HREQ wrote:I'm currently studying up electronic right now, the genres I'm going for are eurobeat, jpop synthpop, dempa song (I'm sure you guys havent heard of dempa) but while studying and creating synths I listened to some touhou music again and I'm like shit... this music is so good, I should just go back to trying to produce similar. But at the same time I like these other genres and have all these cool ideas for them and song ideas already.

Studying is always a good thing. Just don't over do it. And your heart is trying to tell you something, I'd recommend you to listen to it

Maybe you could implement those ideas of yours to game music?

HREQ wrote:What do I do? Should I just create one profile and stick to one genre? One profile and produce all these genres? multiple profiles and one genre each?

TBH I don't want to have multiple profiles, I just want one simple producer name, one simple website lol.

If you have one name and one style, people will always know what they get. If you have one name and dozen of genres, someone who likes your trance songs comes to your gig and almost throws up his/hers guts and thinks "omfg why he plays this crap. I hate game music!"

I've narrowed myself to 3 genres under one name. But it doesn't really matter since once I found ME, no matter what genre I make since they still sound like me. Though I've considered to keep my main genre under my main name and make another name for that other stuff.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:03 pm

Numanoid wrote:...

Where would U2 by without Paul McGuinness, Depeche Mode without Daniel Miller, Iron Maiden without Rod Smallwood ?

or Spinal Tap without Charles Levin (Disc 'n' Dat Manager)?

three years and I still don't know what genre to produce, how the heck do you guys choose?