Really Beginners Sound Design
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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The global filter controls do make sense. You can set the filter parameters for each layer and then use the global ones for doing sweeps or simply change them manually without changing the relationship between the two layers.
In Hybrid there is something similar albeit much more flexible, namely those 4 morph controls at the bottom. You could assign all four cutoff knobs to one morph knob and then change them all at once, maintaining the individual offsets.
In Hybrid there is something similar albeit much more flexible, namely those 4 morph controls at the bottom. You could assign all four cutoff knobs to one morph knob and then change them all at once, maintaining the individual offsets.
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- KVRAF
- 35679 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yeah. The weird thing in Sylenth is that the filter isn't fully closed if you turn down the filter cutoff, and if the global cutoff isn't closed either. That's also the difference to macro knobs. Macro knobs serve multiple functions at the same time, while the global cutoff is an additional parameter to the filter cutoff. It gets confusing if you assign an envelope to the filter cutoff, and the global cutoff has also to be turned down for the envelope to have the desired effect. It's a bit weird IMO.
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- KVRAF
- 3086 posts since 4 May, 2012
Sound design is more than just learning how to use premade synths. Unless the OP meant synthesis instead of sound design.
I would suggest that, ultimately, sound design is about applying a creative understanding of physics to create sonically useful results for the intended application. However, in the beginning - lots of trial and error.
As the OP mentioned an understanding of waveforms, I would suggest extending that to an understanding of wave theory and acoustics. Psychoacoustics or the interpretation of sound via the human brain also needs to be addressed. Understanding the human hardware is quite important.
Learning sampling theory will be useful for working within the constraints of a digital environment. Also, learning more about sound recreation using loudspeakers will help when making processing choices.
Getting some hands-on experience with recording and learning about different microphones will also help to expand your options.
Further down the line, I recommend obtaining something like Reaktor, Max or maybe starting with PureData so that you can learn to create and adapt signal processors for your own uses.
And keep experimenting. Never stop asking, "I wonder what would happen if...?"
I would suggest that, ultimately, sound design is about applying a creative understanding of physics to create sonically useful results for the intended application. However, in the beginning - lots of trial and error.
As the OP mentioned an understanding of waveforms, I would suggest extending that to an understanding of wave theory and acoustics. Psychoacoustics or the interpretation of sound via the human brain also needs to be addressed. Understanding the human hardware is quite important.
Learning sampling theory will be useful for working within the constraints of a digital environment. Also, learning more about sound recreation using loudspeakers will help when making processing choices.
Getting some hands-on experience with recording and learning about different microphones will also help to expand your options.
Further down the line, I recommend obtaining something like Reaktor, Max or maybe starting with PureData so that you can learn to create and adapt signal processors for your own uses.
And keep experimenting. Never stop asking, "I wonder what would happen if...?"
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Actually I think I remember reading in the manual that the global filter controls are NOT additional filter controls as such.
I don't remember, but I suppose if you set both global controls to zero, it is as if they were not there and the synth worked just like any other synth. By default, however, the cutoff is set to 12 o'clock if I remember correctly, and the resonance to zero.
I don't remember, but I suppose if you set both global controls to zero, it is as if they were not there and the synth worked just like any other synth. By default, however, the cutoff is set to 12 o'clock if I remember correctly, and the resonance to zero.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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I would not even recommend Sylenth for beginners as it lacks certain things. Noisemaker would be better, and there is a manual for it, unlike for Charlatan.
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- KVRAF
- 35679 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yeah, and when you turn up the resonance max on filter 1, you have about half the resonance. When you turn up the global resonance max additionally to that, then you will have the full resonance.fluffy_little_something wrote:Actually I think I remember reading in the manual that the global filter controls are NOT additional filter controls as such.
I don't remember, but I suppose if you set both global controls to zero, it is as if they were not there and the synth worked just like any other synth. By default, however, the cutoff is set to 12 o'clock if I remember correctly, and the resonance to zero.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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I think such controls are always a bit weird in terms of logic, like, what happens to a filter offset when one of the values reaches the min or max and one keeps turning the global control?
Does Sylenth self-resonate when global resonance is set to zero and the f1 or f2 resonance to max?
But who knows, maybe he did implement it in a weird way. There is another - in my view - weird behavior, which was one reason I finally sold it.
Does Sylenth self-resonate when global resonance is set to zero and the f1 or f2 resonance to max?
But who knows, maybe he did implement it in a weird way. There is another - in my view - weird behavior, which was one reason I finally sold it.
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- KVRian
- 784 posts since 29 Mar, 2016
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musicalmemoriesuk musicalmemoriesuk https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=373053
- KVRist
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- 48 posts since 17 Jan, 2016
looking at tal noisemaker and charlatan everything is on one screen in charlatan but noisemake is multiple sections
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Yes, there are 4 panels, but the 2 lower ones are optional (effects etc.), so you can leave them collapsed most of the time and focus on the 2 upper ones, which cover the synth as such.musicalmemoriesuk wrote:looking at tal noisemaker and charlatan everything is on one screen in charlatan but noisemake is multiple sections
- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
Ironic, I just tried it last night.musicalmemoriesuk wrote:looking at tal noisemaker and charlatan everything is on one screen in charlatan but noisemake is multiple sections
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- 1236 posts since 8 Apr, 2013
I was going to recommend that Noizemaker after you find your way around Charlatan first 
I found some Charlatan tutorial. It may not really soundwise be something you were looking for, but it may help a bit for becoming more familiar with the synth
I found some Charlatan tutorial. It may not really soundwise be something you were looking for, but it may help a bit for becoming more familiar with the synth
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musicalmemoriesuk musicalmemoriesuk https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=373053
- KVRist
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- 48 posts since 17 Jan, 2016
Not sure if it's progress but I managed to replicate a kick preset from tal noisemaker to charlatan not sure if I got and exact copy but end result was a kick.
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musicalmemoriesuk musicalmemoriesuk https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=373053
- KVRist
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- 48 posts since 17 Jan, 2016
Would love to see the charlatan tutorials
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