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db3 · Post by **db3** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:42 am

rod_zero wrote:I liked Modular, but I doubt I have the time for it.

Nevertheless I downloaded Heartbeat, for testing the modules, but after trying the full drum machine I liked it a lot, don't why it got so much hate when it was released, honestly it sounds quite good, it has the right amount of tweakable paramters without being overwhelimng.

+1. Modular sounds great, but too much effort for me. I also don't like the inclusion of factory presets which require additional modules.

After originally discounting Heartbeat, I took a second look at it during the recent sale. What I love is that it really feels like a tweak-able piece of hardware (much like Modular). The integrated saturation, compression and reverb is icing on the cake. It supplements my sample based drum plugins perfectly.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:45 am

tedannemann wrote:
ATS wrote:tried to demo this but crashes studio one. Found out it is a known bug. Wish I knew before I activated my trial.
Works flawless here in Studio One 3 on Mac OS X. Try deleting the modular VST3 file manually in you plugins path and just use (let S1 scan) the VST2 version. S1 does have problems with VST3 versions sometimes.

glad it works for you. wish it did for me.

Ohlson_M · Post by **Ohlson_M** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:58 am

Softube Modular may sound good, I am not the right person to judge. But it seems that there is too much work with modular synthesis to make it fit into my workflow. It´s like synthesis for scientists. It´s too complicated.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:38 am

Ohlson_M wrote:Softube Modular may sound good, I am not the right person to judge. But it seems that there is too much work with modular synthesis to make it fit into my workflow. It´s like synthesis for scientists. It´s too complicated.

Yes. Or its an uncharted continent for adventurous explorers of endless sonic horizons. Both the methodical and the intuitive approaches are possible.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:20 pm

morelia wrote:
wagtunes wrote:If this thing was a woman I'd take it to bed with me.
If this thing was a woman it would cost a lot more than $99

And you'd may have to use more than 99$ to get woman in to your bed

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:27 pm

Ohlson_M wrote:Softube Modular may sound good, I am not the right person to judge. But it seems that there is too much work with modular synthesis to make it fit into my workflow. It´s like synthesis for scientists. It´s too complicated.

not so complicated , if you know what is ADSR / LFO you know 75 % of the basic ....
I remember when i purchased reaktor , i was totally newbie with all this kind of stuff , i just look a few synth scheme and i understand how it work...
If you use reaktor , modular will be 1000 time more easy to use.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:09 pm

morelia wrote:
wagtunes wrote:If this thing was a woman I'd take it to bed with me.
If this thing was a woman it would cost a lot more than $99

So people got all shirty about previous ambiguous transgender comments but blatantly sexist comments are just ignored, thanks to cultural brain washing I guess.

Just saying

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:12 pm

Takes about 30 seconds to make a basic monosynth patch that receives notes (and gate) from your DAW.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:14 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
morelia wrote:
wagtunes wrote:If this thing was a woman I'd take it to bed with me.
If this thing was a woman it would cost a lot more than $99
So people got all shirty about previous ambiguous transgender comments but blatantly sexist comments are just ignored, thanks to cultural brain washing I guess.

Just saying

Bit same than in Finland. If you don't like the shit some immigrants do, you're a racist. Still it's ok to do hate crimes towards Finnish. Approved by our lovely government

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:17 pm

My god, it's full of stars..

Anyway, i think that people who never thought about going modular or something hold them back to make the last step and buy some hardware modules now have a great opportunity to try it out with the "real" look and sound.

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:07 pm

murnau wrote:

My god, it's full of stars..

I don't know what those modules are but I want the whole thing. ::checks lottery ticket:: Aww, damn.

As for regular old sexism, yeah, I'm not too fond of that either. It's so common it's harder to notice sometimes.

On iLok and the installation process: I don't like registering for extra accounts, installing extra junk, etc. to own something, and I especially don't like it just to try a demo. I also don't want to install everything from a developer in order to try one product; I've always disliked the Melda "download everything, deselect what you don't want" installer, and this is worse. Thanks a lot for stealing my SSD space. So, first impression: annoyance.

I didn't actually reboot after installing iLok, because 90% of the time when installers ask for that, they don't actually need it. So when I first ran Maschine and it scanned the plugin, it gave me about 27 iLok popup errors. Second impression: more annoyance.

I will actually try the plugin after a reboot, if it works.

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:45 pm

...yeah, I prefer Bazille overall.

Licensing: Bazille is non-iLok, Softube is iLok.
Preset loading: Bazille has it. Softube relies on the host, and Maschine VST preset loading is awkward.
Polyphony: Bazille just does it; this is software and it doesn't screw around. Softube sticks with more realistically, but less conveniently and flexibly, not doing it.
Sound overall: Both are excellent; Softube may have a slight edge.
Modules: I like Softube's filter, and the logic/utility modules. I like the fact its modules are actually modular, instead of just the routing like in Bazille. But it has a lot of stuff I'm unlikely to use much (the sequencer, multiple kinds of "performance" modules etc.)
Stability: Bazille has never crashed on me. Softube crashed in the first few seconds, as I loaded a preset, played a few notes, then deleted some modules.
UI: Both pretty good; Softube is prettier but Bazille maybe slightly more functional.
CPU: I honestly didn't check in Softube, but Bazille is pretty low CPU.

I should probably check out ACE for more classically analog style stuff than Bazille does.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:47 pm

foosnark wrote:On iLok and the installation process: I don't like registering for extra accounts, installing extra junk, etc. to own something, and I especially don't like it just to try a demo. I also don't want to install everything from a developer in order to try one product; I've always disliked the Melda "download everything, deselect what you don't want" installer, and this is worse. Thanks a lot for stealing my SSD space. So, first impression: annoyance.

I didn't actually reboot after installing iLok, because 90% of the time when installers ask for that, they don't actually need it. So when I first ran Maschine and it scanned the plugin, it gave me about 27 iLok popup errors. Second impression: more annoyance.

I will actually try the plugin after a reboot, if it works.

About iLok too.. On win10 it seems that everytime I turn my computer on, I have to manually start pace from admin tools and manually start iLok.. Because otherwise NOT A SINGLE license will work.. Job not so well done.

When it comes to Melda, the whole installer is what.. Bit over 100mb? And you delete the installer anyways after installing so not much stealing ssd space

My PC, this old little warrior, has 148gb hd and I've NEVER had any issues with Melda installer

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:50 pm

Now the fun begins of trying to figure out how to uninstall Modular and whatever else was thrown onto my hard drive, without also uninstalling Saturation Knob.

Or, well, screw it, I'll nuke Saturation Knob too.

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:50 pm

foosnark wrote:...yeah, I prefer Bazille overall.

Licensing: Bazille is non-iLok, Softube is iLok.
Preset loading: Bazille has it. Softube relies on the host, and Maschine VST preset loading is awkward.
Polyphony: Bazille just does it; this is software and it doesn't screw around. Softube sticks with more realistically, but less conveniently and flexibly, not doing it.
Sound overall: Both are excellent; Softube may have a slight edge.
Modules: I like Softube's filter, and the logic/utility modules. I like the fact its modules are actually modular, instead of just the routing like in Bazille. But it has a lot of stuff I'm unlikely to use much (the sequencer, multiple kinds of "performance" modules etc.)
Stability: Bazille has never crashed on me. Softube crashed in the first few seconds, as I loaded a preset, played a few notes, then deleted some modules.
UI: Both pretty good; Softube is prettier but Bazille maybe slightly more functional.
CPU: I honestly didn't check in Softube, but Bazille is pretty low CPU.

I should probably check out ACE for more classically analog style stuff than Bazille does.

I don't know your setup but mine is really stable ! (Osx 10.10.5 + Cubase Art. 8.5.20)

Now the fun begins of trying to figure out how to uninstall Modular and whatever else was thrown onto my hard drive, without also uninstalling Saturation Knob.

Launch the softube plugins installer and remove the one you don't want ?..