New petition to reform 'Digital Millennium Copyright Act' of 1998 (US)

[annode]

In a statement, a rep for YouTube responded: "The overwhelming majority of labels and publishers have licensing agreements in place with YouTube to leave fan videos up on the platform and earn revenue from them. Today the revenue from fan uploaded content accounts for roughly 50 percent of the music industry's YouTube revenue. Any assertion that this content is largely unlicensed is false."

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WTF! Fan video? Are they serious?

[sprnva]

Content ID. Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

This even happens with legit promotional content. Jim Sterling found a clever solution to having his gaming videos "claimed" while using promotional content the game companies sent out... for promotional purposes.

[AsPeeXXXVIII]

Jim Sterling found a clever solution to having his gaming videos "claimed" while using promotional content the game companies sent out... for promotional purposes.

I don't personally watch or follow Sterling, but goddamn, I just have to applaud him.

[chk071]

Content ID. Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

This even happens with legit promotional content. Jim Sterling found a clever solution to having his gaming videos "claimed" while using promotional content the game companies sent out... for promotional purposes.

Actually, i don't find that a bad solution at all. They can't fight that sort of thing anyway, because it's too expensive, and requires too much effort.

I just wonder what GEMA will do about it in the future. I don't think they (or rather the artists) will benefit from banning music videos in germany in the long run.

[Zexila]

Content ID. Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

Pretty fair deal.

[chk071]

I would think so. If i imagine to be an artist trying to make a living from my music, and see all those random people marketing my music, i would be happy to at least partly take control over the way my music is marketed too. Or from a label's perspective.

[annode]

Content ID. Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

Pretty fair deal.

WHAT! That response and the others above seem insensitive to the real issue...Youtube makes money from advertisers and none is given to the talent.
This petition is asking for reconsideration of the law written in `98. If that passes, making amendments to this writ will be considered.

I want talent to make as much money as they can, any way they can. In my mind this steps up the quality of talent we get to hear and gives more incentive to becoming full time musicians, heightening competition.
I`d like to see copyright law enforced on torrents as well.

I can do without all this prefab female fronted, synchronized dancing crap that has flooded the American music market. Art and musicianship in music(which takes talent) has lost all visibility in the market and exists in only small quantities. Can't make a living doing that anymore. Recordings get released only to be freely available. What's the use?

[johnrule]

I want talent to make as much money as they can, any way they can. In my mind this steps up the quality of talent we get to hear and gives more incentive to becoming full time musicians, heightening competition.
I`d like to see copyright law enforced on torrents as well.

I can do without all this prefab female fronted, synchronized dancing crap that has flooded the American music market. Art and musicianship in music(which takes talent) has lost all visibility in the market and exists in only small quantities. Can't make a living doing that anymore. Recordings get released only to be freely available. What's the use?

Thank you for that intelligent statement, and lol to the "prefab female fronted, synchronized dancing crap" statement

Someone listens to my entire album, and I get .02? Laws allow people to sample large portions of my music and call it their own? No wonder I can't make a living in music.

[chk071]

Content ID. Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

Pretty fair deal.

WHAT! That response and the others above seem insensitive to the real issue...Youtube makes money from advertisers and none is given to the talent.

Not sure what you mean there. But you might want to read this sentence again:

Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

[annode]

Content ID. Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

Pretty fair deal.

WHAT! That response and the others above seem insensitive to the real issue...Youtube makes money from advertisers and none is given to the talent.

Not sure what you mean there. But you might want to read this sentence again:

Where once they would have your video taken down or silenced for using copyrighted content, now they claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns on YouTube.

My take on how that reads is they[Youtube] claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns [from adverts while being played]

[chk071]

The way i understand it, i don't know how it is exactly, only how i understand sprnva's post, it is, when the video was uploaded by some private person, the copyright holder can claim ownership of the content, and earn on the revenues, if the video is monetarized, or monetarize it themselves (although i'm not sure if that is possible, i thought i once read somewhere that you have to set the monetarize option before you post the video, but not sure). Of course, Youtube also earns, but, fair enough, for hosting petabytes of video data, and providing a video service for free.

[Zexila]

My take on how that reads is they[Youtube] claim ownership of the content and take any revenue it earns [from adverts while being played]

Read again

The overwhelming majority of labels and publishers have licensing agreements in place with YouTube to leave fan videos up on the platform and earn revenue from them.

So majority of labels and publishers are "they" and instead of just taking it down on their demand, they are actually earning with it too, it's not fair to use that content in first place, so this way everybody wins.

[chk071]

So majority of labels and publishers are "they" and instead of just taking it down on their demand, they are actually earning with it too, it's not fair to use that content in first place, so this way everybody wins.

That's the way i see it too, if it's like that.

[Zexila]

So majority of labels and publishers are "they" and instead of just taking it down on their demand, they are actually earning with it too, it's not fair to use that content in first place, so this way everybody wins.

That's the way i see it too, if it's like that.

That's how it is I guess based on what is written, but maybe there's more to it, if not, that's it.

[xNiMiNx]

So, Artist creates song without video. Fan creates fan-made video for the song. The song is getting all the money, but the person who created the visual art gets nothing?

I understand that without the song there is no fan made video, but i also see that on youtube there are many album-cover-only 'videos' for songs, and fan-made videos with more views.

Of course, it gets more complicated when you include user created video content as compared to using other works. Still, effort goes into songs, just as effort goes into creating a video.