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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:00 am

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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:11 am

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masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:08 pm

Theo, you're also well-known to radically change your mind regarding literally anything at any given time. And generally it's so polarized/black& white/absolute it's difficult to know which to listen to. This time next year you'll be saying that fruity loops is the best daw ever and you can't believe you ever let your music touch the filth of pro tools.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:19 pm

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masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:27 pm

Wow. Thanks for the valuable lesson on how to overreact, dude.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:31 pm

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masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:44 pm

You take this stuff way too seriously. I didn't mean it as an attack. This persecution complex of yours has resulted in you muting an unnaturally large number of people.

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:17 pm

If a piano roll can't stretch notes like this for tuplets and so on.. It sucks.
Reaper does this the best IMHO. You punch in however many notes you want.. What's that? You want 7 notes over 2 beats in Reaper? Punch in say 7 8th notes and stretch to fit over 2 beats. Any combination. Done.

Live does it great as well. But you still end up with that extra "anchor" note to delete after.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:32 pm

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Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:38 pm

So.. back on topic...

kelldammit · Post by **kelldammit** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:33 am

TheoM wrote:cubase has inline midi.. you can "live" in the midi editor.

I'm aware, but it's not quite the same thing.
Think of it along the lines of inline being a full score sheet...several lines of different staves, each with their own part. DP's sequence view works this way by default.
My preference is more like displaying a single stave, and showing/hiding/editing the parts i want to compare or edit as i go. It makes stuff like stacks of close harmony much easier to deal with. There's no scrolling, resizing or window jumping involved, and the controllers for each track are there to edit as well. Just toggle tracks on or off in the left hand column of the editor.
As i'd mentioned, PT can do this, too. If you end up doing something orchestral-ish, maybe give it a shot. It's a really cool (and very fast) way to work.
In any case, it's just a personal preference...and i've grown accustomed to it over the years, so there's some culture shock involved on my part

cheers!

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:54 am

I'll say it again, and this is NOT A KNOCK ON ANYONE, it's the user.

I happen to like quantized parts. That can mean perfect, partially, swung, whatever. Midi has only been my enemy in two ways: When I want a program to do EVERYTHING one way (which is STILL an issue in 2016) or laziness

.....see number one

Midi is an means to an end, not an end in itself.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:17 am

So far Ive produced a broad variety of electronic - future bass, electro, jersey club, trap, house bass, trance and others and YET I still haven't been able to see the benefits of having a complex midi editor. A midi editor that's ACCESSIBLE and FAST, yeah sure. Ableton..the best in that regard. But features of Cubase for example like vst expression..how redundant. All those great, additional features are pointless if the workflow is slow anyway.

I find the most important aspect of a DAW when writing electronic is how ASSIGNABLE the midi is not whether you can do curves or triangles by right clicking and selecting. If you wanna do multiple triangles then use an LFO or loop the automation in Ableton then change whatever bar you dont want it on.

There's too much emphasis on the midi editor and I know that's the subject of this thread but seriously, as long as it has basic functions that's all you really need, as long as you can get quick assess and assign things in seconds.
Yeah, it would be nice to splice notes in Ableton but I ask you this: what is the difference between doing that and just pressing click where you want the notes? I mean if you know where you want the notes sliced then you must know where you want the beats to fall.

Protools on the other hand is none of the above and I find it odd how the most expensive daw has the worst midi editor, but anyway.

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:52 am

fmr wrote: . . . IMO, the best DAW in what concerns MIDI is Digital Performer. There was only one that could beat it, and that was Studio Vision, which is no longer available. The DP event list is superb

I COMPLETELY agree, but sadly . . . there are drawbacks to DP. I wish MOTU created a streamlined version of DP that was like the old Performer . . . a killer MIDI Editor that could work within/alongside the DAW of choice.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:09 am

tommyzai wrote:
fmr wrote: . . . IMO, the best DAW in what concerns MIDI is Digital Performer. There was only one that could beat it, and that was Studio Vision, which is no longer available. The DP event list is superb
I COMPLETELY agree, but sadly . . . there are drawbacks to DP. I wish MOTU created a streamlined version of DP that was like the old Performer . . . a killer MIDI Editor that could work within/alongside the DAW of choice.

Ah! the great midi editors of yesteryear!
Forgot the name of the Sequencer I briefly used back in the mid 90's but the midi editor elegant.
Very comprehensive and super easy to use.

What makes a DAW's midi editor good?