i'm looking to find some samples of arabic violins and any other middle eastern instrument sounds. anyone know where i could find some decent free sounds for download? preferably in wav or sf2.
thanks much,
Amir
anyone know where to find arabic instrument samples?
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 5 Sep, 2003 from minneapolis, mn
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- KVRian
- 672 posts since 28 Jul, 2004
Hi there,
This isn't exactly what you asked for but perhaps these midi files will get you started. If you find any samples please post. I would like some too. Hadeeth Arabic Rhythyms may have some of those sounds but I can't remember. Will have to go dig it out...
G.
http://www.dalleh.net/arabic_midi2/
This isn't exactly what you asked for but perhaps these midi files will get you started. If you find any samples please post. I would like some too. Hadeeth Arabic Rhythyms may have some of those sounds but I can't remember. Will have to go dig it out...
G.
http://www.dalleh.net/arabic_midi2/
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- KVRian
- 718 posts since 17 Jan, 2004 from Vesta, Earth, Moon, Titan, Enceladus and Gliese 581d
If you use the Egyptian pentononics scale on a regular violin it sounds surprisingly Arabic:
It is:
C, C#, E, F, G, G#, B (loop)
chears, Allen
It is:
C, C#, E, F, G, G#, B (loop)
chears, Allen
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
that site requires a login.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
If you own Reason, there's a [edit] FREE :-) Refill called "Arabize" by John Allawi of Beirut (aka Lord Nitron Toxin). This post on Reasonstation has a link to download it.
Best regards,
Meffy
Best regards,
Meffy
Last edited by Meffy on Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 24 May, 2004
For the scale peppy gave to you try to use a simple chord pattern like C, C#, C, C#, ...
The scale to be played on C:
C, C#, E, F, G, G#, B
On C#, play this one:
C, Db, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb
The rest is a matter of taste, but in general i prefer chord patterns that are chromatic.
For an example, i'd recommend hearing my track "orientalude", but somehow my webspace is down...
The scale to be played on C:
C, C#, E, F, G, G#, B
On C#, play this one:
C, Db, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb
The rest is a matter of taste, but in general i prefer chord patterns that are chromatic.
For an example, i'd recommend hearing my track "orientalude", but somehow my webspace is down...
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 5 Sep, 2003 from minneapolis, mn
yes. on the track i'm working on i've actually got a regular violin sample in place on an arabic sounding part. it sounds pretty decent, but still has sort of a *fiddle* sound to it. just hoping to find something a little more authentic sounding.peppy197 wrote:If you use the Egyptian pentononics scale on a regular violin it sounds surprisingly Arabic:
It is:
C, C#, E, F, G, G#, B (loop)
chears, Allen
don't know too much about the actual arabic scales. i just sort of tinker around until i have something that sounds like what i'm looking for. aren't there like up to 24 notes in classic arabic scales?
meffy:
thanks for the link of that refill. i'm not currently using reason, but i'm thinking i might be able to convert some of the refill sounds with awave.
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- KVRian
- 672 posts since 28 Jul, 2004
Sorry, the log in is midi2 for username and arabic2 for password.
G.
"]Hi there,
This isn't exactly what you asked for but perhaps these midi files will get you started. If you find any samples please post. I would like some too. Hadeeth Arabic Rhythyms may have some of those sounds but I can't remember. Will have to go dig it out...
G.
http://www.dalleh.net/arabic_midi2/[/quote]
G.
"]Hi there,
This isn't exactly what you asked for but perhaps these midi files will get you started. If you find any samples please post. I would like some too. Hadeeth Arabic Rhythyms may have some of those sounds but I can't remember. Will have to go dig it out...
G.
http://www.dalleh.net/arabic_midi2/[/quote]
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- KVRian
- 672 posts since 28 Jul, 2004
The link goes to his site but I can't find the download. Anyone?
G.
G.
Meffy wrote:If you own Reason, there's a [edit] FREERefill called "Arabize" by John Allawi of Beirut (aka Lord Nitron Toxin). This post on Reasonstation has a link to download it.
Best regards,
Meffy
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
hmm.. i guess nobody noticed that there are vsti for oud, nay and kanun (quanoon) (lute, flute, zither, or whatever you call a flat sound board with horizontal strings) listed right here at kvr. haven't tried them yet.
if looking for samples, the popular bowed instrument is known (ttbomk) as a rababa or rebab or rabob.. (take it from there) bowed instruments are known by similar names from the middle east to india at least, but i'm not sure how much actual difference there is in the form.
i am so totally impressed by some rababa playing i've heard recently.. kiss your 303s goodbye.. good luck trying that w/ samples..
not what you aksed for, but to mention it, http://www.xoxos.net/maqam.zip is a monosynth tuned to the classic maqams of safi al-din. the white keys are 'in key,' maqamat with an asterisk at the end of the name also use Bb in-key.. the other black keys are my arbitrary selections (scale is 17 tone) my q-algorithmic generators also include these tunings :p
other note is that the root is tuned to equal temperament G, which i am told is the tonic of the maqamat, but i've never found an exact Hz, so might be a bit off of other tuned instruments.
afaik there are many contemporary maqamat. most of the modern notation i have seen (this isn't something i'm all that erudite on) seems to use western notes with half-semitone and quarter- modifiers. that is, from an english speaking internet perspective..
if looking for samples, the popular bowed instrument is known (ttbomk) as a rababa or rebab or rabob.. (take it from there) bowed instruments are known by similar names from the middle east to india at least, but i'm not sure how much actual difference there is in the form.
i am so totally impressed by some rababa playing i've heard recently.. kiss your 303s goodbye.. good luck trying that w/ samples..
not what you aksed for, but to mention it, http://www.xoxos.net/maqam.zip is a monosynth tuned to the classic maqams of safi al-din. the white keys are 'in key,' maqamat with an asterisk at the end of the name also use Bb in-key.. the other black keys are my arbitrary selections (scale is 17 tone) my q-algorithmic generators also include these tunings :p
other note is that the root is tuned to equal temperament G, which i am told is the tonic of the maqamat, but i've never found an exact Hz, so might be a bit off of other tuned instruments.
afaik there are many contemporary maqamat. most of the modern notation i have seen (this isn't something i'm all that erudite on) seems to use western notes with half-semitone and quarter- modifiers. that is, from an english speaking internet perspective..
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Rats, it's gone. When I click the link for the .zip file it goes to a home page.geoffrey wrote:The link goes to his site but I can't find the download. Anyone?
Sorry about that. :-(
Meffy
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- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
A Zurna vsti would rock.
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- KVRian
- 718 posts since 17 Jan, 2004 from Vesta, Earth, Moon, Titan, Enceladus and Gliese 581d
xandro wrote:. aren't there like up to 24 notes in classic arabic scales?
meffy:
Maybe not sure.
What I gave you was not the "arabic scales" but the Egyptian pentatonics scale which should 'sound' arabic.
(because Egypt is in the Arabian area... lol)
Allen
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 5 Sep, 2003 from minneapolis, mn
yep, this much i know. for i'm actually half egyptian myself - been there a few times - and egyptian being exactly the sort of *arabian* sound i'm going for.peppy197 wrote:(because Egypt is in the Arabian area... lol)
Allen
the music i make generally falls somewhere in between techno/electro/minimal, but i've sort of had a lightbulb go off in my head that it would sound neat to incorporate into my music some of the arabic strings and other sounds i was always so fond of hearing in the music i grew up with my dad listening to.
xoxos:
thanks so much for mentioning those vsti synths, and for info about the actual names of the instruments. that should be a big help to me. i'll have to try out your maqam synth as well. sounds cool. i've actually had the pleasure of using a few of your synths in songs i've made/am working on. always good stuff!
thanks everyone!
Amir