It's That Time Again...I Need A Synth (Requirements Listed...Winner Gets Free Sound Library)

[Guenon]

Here's the problem. The GUI size itself is fine. However, there are too many controls on one screen for that size. I can't make out the labels. They are too hard to read. A synth with this many controls should have tabs or a much larger GUI.

Ah. Too bad; from what I gather, it's specifically the GUI that has been one of its major selling points ... And it's a nifty synth otherwise, too. I've played around with the demo quite a lot, as I have to decide whether to get it myself (it's currently on a -50% sale at Plugin Boutique).

Now, don't take this the wrong way, as it's really not in a snarky tone. Have you considered a bigger screen? I mean, keeping the resolution the same, and just having more screen area to see it all, more easily. It can really make a difference, I know this first hand

[Saukar30]

How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.

Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.

Make more libraries for the synths you have... with the complexity and diversity of softsynths today, there is no end to the creative sound design potential.

+1... Or just make different kind of soundsets for different genres. Diversification is good, but it's like you're learning 50 different synths to make 1 or 2 kinds of preset banks. If you had 5 different banks of 1 kind of synth vs 1 for each, there is a better for potential to reach a niche market (I think). There are different kinds of artists who want different things. For instance, barely anyone has a GM library for a synth. though it isn't brought up much, that is an opportunity. Or doing sequences for a synth that generally is not focused on patterns & sequences & arps. What OTHER kinds of sounds are capable in the wash of the same ol same ol?

BTW.. I buy presets pretty frequently, so my input could be of some use LOL

[wagtunes]

It's really not. I just want to add a couple of synths to my business. You see how many I already own. It's not like there are a ton of choices out there that fit my criteria. If I really knew what existed in totality or knew where to go to find out, trust me, I wouldn't bother doing this given how much negativity I knew I was going to have to put up with because if you think this is fun, it's not. But I've honestly run out of ideas. I completely forgot about the Wiggle thread. I'm old and my memory is bad. So shoot me.

Between just these synths in your sig (Dune 2, Serum, Zebra 2, Omnisphere 1 & 2, Synthmaster, Bazille, Nave, Falcon) you could create new soundsets for the next 5 years and not run out of sonic territory to explore.

That seems more fruitful for selling soundsets... but hey I suck at marketing

To be honest, after you've come up with 200 plus patches for a synth, it's hard to come up with something "new". I don't want to just do more of the same. I'd feel like I wasn't giving my customers something that they really could use above what they already have for me. But yeah, I could do that. I could make 10 sets for Serum, which is my best seller. But I won't.

[recursive one]

Buy a Virus.

As a plugin, it fits all your criteria (and it has big GUI!) except that there is obviously no demo. But trust me, it sounds good

[EnGee]

How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.

Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.

Make more libraries for the synths you have... with the complexity and diversity of softsynths today, there is no end to the creative sound design potential.

Now you have spoiled it.

[wagtunes]

How could you possibly need another synth. That list you have does everything.

Because creating sound libraries is my business and I'm running out of synths to make libraries for. It's not a question of "needing" a synth for personal use. I don't need synths for personal use.

Make more libraries for the synths you have... with the complexity and diversity of softsynths today, there is no end to the creative sound design potential.

+1... Or just make different kind of soundsets for different genres. Diversification is good, but it's like you're learning 50 different synths to make 1 or 2 kinds of preset banks. If you had 5 different banks of 1 kind of synth vs 1 for each, there is a better for potential to reach a niche market (I think). There are different kinds of artists who want different things. For instance, barely anyone has a GM library for a synth. though it isn't brought up much, that is an opportunity. What OTHER kinds of sounds are capable? That's why people buy presets.

The thing is, I specialize in the kinds of sounds I do best, which are mainly vintage. Why do you think I've never done an EDM library? For one thing, the market is saturated with wub wub, supersaw stuff. For another, that's not what I do best. I'm not an EDM producer. To try to make an EDM set would be laughable and I'd lose all credibility because it would be a horrible set.

I'm best at 70s and 80s sounds and that's what I stick to. Yes, it's niche and yes, I don't make many sales that way. But at least the product I do make is one that fits the market and is done well.

[Saukar30]

Right... so you make 70's and 80's sounds. Cool.

What particular type of 70's & 80's sounds? Have you focused on nailing a particular artist? There were MANY artists & MANY different kinds of synths with different sounds & textures based on the type of recording, production & artist style. There's Zappa. there's Funkadelic. There's Depeche Mode. There's Afrika Bambatta & Zulu Nation. There's Kraftwerk. In each of those I've mentioned, they all used synths for different instruments & different textures. Some of the best presets I use are the ones in whcih the designer is focusing on a specific artform.

That's what I'm trying to get to you. If you are focused on that particular time, that's cool. But fine diversification in that time with the tools you have. Just trying to get you to stop spending your money LOL

[wagtunes]

Right... so you make 70's and 80's sounds. Cool.

What particular type of 70's & 80's sounds? Have you focused on nailing a particular artist? There were MANY artists & MANY different kinds of synths with different sounds & textures based on the type of recording, production & artist style. There's Zappa. there's Funkadelic. There's Depeche Mode. There's Afrika Bambatta & Zulu Nation. There's Kraftwerk. In each of those I've mentioned, they all used synths for different instruments & different textures.

That's what I'm trying to get to you. If you are focused on that particular time, that's cool. But fine diversification in that time with the tools you have.

As I actually lived during that time period, there was a lot of crossover in sounds. For example, the Moog sound that Keith Emerson used was used by many artists and genres that weren't prog rock bands.

Point is, in any one of my sets, and also given how versatile the synth itself is, I pretty much cover the basics of the era in a multiple of genres. I'm not sure I have enough ideas in my head to actually come up with a whole other set given that my libraries are so large to begin with. Serum is 350 patches. Most are at least 250. The "limited" synths are at least 150. The only exception was the Matrix 12 at 100 because that is almost literally a one sound synth. I had the most difficult time coming up with 100 patches for it that I could say were 100 different patches. I could never do another set for Matrix 12.

Falcon? That's a different story. In fact, I'll be coming out with another set in conjunction with another developer later this year. But there aren't a lot of Falcon's out there. Omnisphere, I've already done 2 sets for. I could probably do another set for Zebra 2. Same with Bazille, where I only scratched the surface.

But most synths? My brain can only think of so much to do with them.

[wagtunes]

Well, I just completed my Wiggle purchase. Didn't even need the 20 days. Absolutely love this synth. Now this is a synth I could do multiple libraries for. The possibilities are endless.

Thanks again for the recommendation guys. You'll get your library when it's completed. I'm starting on it right now.

[ZeePok]

 
I found one!

Not sure if you're into this, but how about Modelonia?

Also ... you should check out some of his other synths too.

Hope it's useful.

[wagtunes]

 
I found one!

Not sure if you're into this, but how about Modelonia?

Also ... you should check out some of his other synths too.

Hope it's useful.

Yeah, I've seen this before. It looks interesting but it's such a radical departure from how I'm used to programming synths, I think I would pretty much suck at it. Kind of like Cycle. I really tried to get into that synth but just couldn't. Too hard for me. Modular synths from the ground up are easier to program. This looks kind of like in the Cycle vein. So I think I'm gonna pass on it, but yeah, it looks really cool.

[ZeePok]

 
Fair enough.

And someone mentioned Tangle earlier in this post.

Did you try it?

[wagtunes]

 
Fair enough.

And someone mentioned Tangle earlier in this post.

Did you try it?

I have a personal problem with the developer. I don't want to get into detail so I will leave it at that. I have the Mangle and it's my favorite granular synth but I won't purchase another synth from him because of the problems I've had. If you want, PM me and I'll explain privately. I don't want to get into it here.

[chk071]

Everytime when i feel like it "that time again", i question myself, and ask myself if it's really that time again. The reply is usually that i already have what it needs to make good music, i just have to use it. I can understand that from the perspective of someone who does soundsets, every new synth is sort of a new challenge though. But frankly, i wouldn't even have the time to learn 50 different synths.

[wagtunes]

Everytime when i feel like it "that time again", i question myself, and ask myself if it's really that time again. The reply is usually that i already have what it needs to make good music, i just have to use it. I can understand that from the perspective of someone who does soundsets, every new synth is sort of a new challenge though. But frankly, i wouldn't even have the time to learn 50 different synths.

That's why, for what I do, you have to be very fast. A synth has to be incredibly intuitive. There is no time to spend a month learning it. Every synth I've made a set for, I learned in a matter of hours at most and some in minutes. I've been doing this since 1979 so I better be good at it by now. Yes, some synths are still beyond me because their architecture is so radical, like Cycle. But most synths are a piece of cake. Even modulars.