KVR Audio

inkwarp · Post by **inkwarp** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:21 am

i still use stuff that could be considered as old, for the simple reason that i know them, i can get a sound from them approximate to what i have in my head and get that quickly. the sound quality is as good as anything current and in most instances has a character that other synths don't have. so i still use Audjoo Helix ( still the dog's nads as far as i am concerned, wonderful creative synth. Synth1 , again still solid and produces a wide palette of sounds. Z3ta+2 i still go to for arps and and bass's... i admit i am a software junkie, but i am at a point now where it's more productive to know how to use what i have and just focus on the music. besides, there are so many effects that you can add that the possibilties for sound creation are endless.
one thing that is clear to me now is that the value of the synth is different in context, i.e. when i use a synth like sylenth, in the mix it has a place. on it's own i guess it is a little plain, but i use it a lot for detail as i do most of these synths. i love spire, Dune, but i also still love Vember Surge.. Loomer Aspect, another great instrument imho. what i would say is it's as good a tool as you make it, the potential exists in sylenth for very good sounds and again it's a simple interface that means quicker workflow.. that being said i still waste hours just trying to make sounds..

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:27 am

Dasheesh wrote:Being that all today's music is the same track over and over and over again.... does it matter?

IKR??? YAWNNNNNNNNNNNN

https://soundcloud.com/hardwell/hardwel ... o-download

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

https://soundcloud.com/dustons/dustons- ... e-soundset

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:38 am

No nothing is relevant in 2016 anymore.
Irrelevance is the new relevance.

I use Omnisphere 2 a lot. I'm irrelevant.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:08 am

layzer wrote:
IKR??? YAWNNNNNNNNNNNN
https://soundcloud.com/hardwell/hardwel ... o-download

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
https://soundcloud.com/dustons/dustons- ... e-soundset

https://soundcloud.com/hollosound/sylenth-goldmine-demo

https://soundcloud.com/hollosound/trans ... eres_demo1

Maarij Bashir · Post by **Maarij Bashir** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:27 am

I still use Sylenth. It's just convenient and it gives me a great sound right out of this plugin. Plus many of my favorite DJ's (Martin Garrix, Avicci) use this. There's a bunch of presets for this plugin so you're never limited to what options you can get. It really is a popular plugin so I would get it.

tshear23 · Post by **tshear23** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:57 am

If you can't get something useful out of a synth just because it's old, the problem is with you, not the synth.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:06 am

I have both and id take Hive any day. Sylenth1 sounds so thin and metalic compared to Hive.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:01 am

Lots of electronic/EDM producers used Sylenth over the last few years and I think lots of them still do (hence loads of presets and tutorials for it). It is a very good sounding synth with its own character, surpisingly versatile for such a simple architecture. In my opinion, it sounds much better than Hive.

Virgiauskas · Post by **Virgiauskas** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:48 am

Elektronisch wrote:I have both and id take Hive any day. Sylenth1 sounds so thin and metalic compared to Hive.

I see people ar divided on this - some say Hive is metalic, others - that Sylenth.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:00 am

Elektronisch wrote:I have both and id take Hive any day. Sylenth1 sounds so thin and metalic compared to Hive.

Interesting.. I would say the exact opposite..

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:33 am

do_androids_dream wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:I have both and id take Hive any day. Sylenth1 sounds so thin and metalic compared to Hive.
Interesting.. I would say the exact opposite..

+1

And Sylenth is definitely relevant do deep house

although from what I know about this genre, it's more a matter of patch programming and arrangement rather than using a specific synth, I guess any decent VA will do, perhaps Hive as well.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:01 pm

Zexila wrote:
layzer wrote:
IKR??? YAWNNNNNNNNNNNN
https://soundcloud.com/hardwell/hardwel ... o-download

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
https://soundcloud.com/dustons/dustons- ... e-soundset

https://soundcloud.com/hollosound/sylenth-goldmine-demo

https://soundcloud.com/hollosound/trans ... eres_demo1

That simply is a different genre of music. Maybe that's basically Layzer's problem, that he doesn't like a certain genre of music, and therefor thinks it sounds all the same.

You know, just like the people thinking a supersaw sounds the same in all synths. Simply because they don't care for it at all.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:03 pm

recursive one wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:I have both and id take Hive any day. Sylenth1 sounds so thin and metalic compared to Hive.
Interesting.. I would say the exact opposite..
+1

+2 there. *lends his hearing aid*

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:19 pm

recursive one wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:I have both and id take Hive any day. Sylenth1 sounds so thin and metalic compared to Hive.
Interesting.. I would say the exact opposite..
+1

I used quite alot Sylenth1 back in 2008-2010-mid but only because there was no other easy to use and that good souding software synthesizer (well there was Zebra 2, Massive but i got to know about those later) till by the time i got Access Virus Ti.

And to be honest i never was satisfied with Sylenth1 sound. It just lacked the guts, the organic feel, the presence that some or rather alot of todays software synthesizers has. Tho there is one thing i love about Sylenth1 is Distortion and Chorus effects. They just dont sound like any others i have tried and that helps to make some unique sounds.

Off topic about famous people using Sylenth1. Yes alot of famous producers do use, but like LennarDigital also majority of those producers are Dutch wich can also be one of the factors. Sylenth1 is very old software synth, one of the kind with such quality, so extensive promotion via word of mouth did alot to make it a pure classic. Alot of Electronic Music Producers (note, not big room or "deep house") producers also use new generation of synths that are literaly on par with hardware gear like U-he stuff, Diva, ect.

You know i have been in electronic music scene for 10 years now (since my first vinyl came out) and been in contact with some of the major names. Despite the geek'yness that every producer has, not alot of major names are in search for new and better when it comes to music production tools If it works, then it works, if some bigger name recommends a new tool, only then there is a "credible" argument to try out this or another synth/effect plugin. Just a word of mouth.

p.s. Hive actually has comes with alot of factory presets that suit for Deep House

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:35 pm

Horses for courses i think. You probably wouldn't use something like Diva for thick unison, or pad sounds. But for analog sounds, it's probably exactly the right thing. Now, the next thing to consider is what you'd need as a tool for the kind of music you want to create. And then, what sound you exactly aim for. E.g. i find that Spire sounds pretty "spacey". Hard to describe, there's something about it which sounds really nice for lush, cold, or also warm space music pads. Sami from Aiynzahev-Sounds described it as "Spire sounds like the future". Can only agree with that, it definitely has that kind of sound. Hive IMO sounds rather metallic, and brittle. The filters sound a bit harsh when closed, and the oscillators sound in the Tyrell N6 direction. Sylenth1 sounds different, more juicy, warmer, but also with kind of a natural saturation on the oscillators. Hard to descibe, but there's definitely a difference, and it really depends on what kind of sound you aim for, if this or that is the right thing for you. I tried Hive in the public beta period, and didn't quite like it. Neither the general unison sound, nor the filters, nor the envelopes. Urs stated that the envelopes were exactly the same, or at least similar to Sylenth1. I really can't hear that. Maybe it also has to do with the filters. Or most probably it does.

Anyway, each to his like. I can imagine that for something like deep house, Diva will be a great synth, because a lot of producers like to add analogish kind of sounds, and Diva obviously does those very well. For trance or EDM merely the JP-8k osc module will have its uses, i can't really imagine many use cases apart from that. Maybe for bass sounds etc. or leads. Again, if that's your kind of thing. I have enough "analogish" freeware synths like Tyrell N6, Charlatan, or TAL-Noisemaker to give me those kind of sounds if i want those.

Is Sylenth still relevant in 2016?